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Last week I tried to get my car tested for emissions. IN VA, for OBD-II cars they plug it in. My car wasn't ready for the Evap system or the catalyst system and another that I can't recall of the top of my head. I took it to them 3 times, and each time the car 'wasn't ready.' I drove the car 200+ miles, and the last time, I drove it all the way around the Capital Beltway (60+miles), and the car, last time I took it in (last saturday) wasn't ready.
What can cause this? MY understanding is the 3 drive cycles are required typically for the OBD-II self test to be complete. The car has no DTCs.
I had thought the MILs might have caused this, but the O2s seem to be ready according to the inspector.....any input is greatly appreciated.
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Maybe this post will help... Description of OBD-II drive cycle And the correct model year document here may help as well... OBD-II Theory and OperationHTH
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Originally posted by We Todd: ... My car wasn't ready for the Evap system or the catalyst system and another that I can't recall of the top of my head. ..
Ryan,
Do you have a 3L? If you do, I wonder if the PCM flash might not have taken those items into account. Not knowing how the 3L vacuum mods are, I wonder if it is "plugged" or "unplugged" at certain places (causing the evap system not to be recognized).
This will describe the Inspection/Maintenance monitors and the OBD II drive cycle.
http://www.obdii.com/drivecycleford.html
And you may just want to scan it first before bringing it in next time.
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It is a 3L, but it operates no different than the 2.5L.
I would assume if there was something wrong with the Evap and other systems it would have thrown a MIL by now.....300 miles and no codes so far...
Mark - Thanks for those links; very informative!
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It sometimes takes a long time for the monitors to run and complete the drive cycle on some Fords, especially the Contour. You need to drive it until the P1000 code is gone. Also make sure that you don't disconnect the battery cables or interupt the keep alive memory to the PCM until the P1000 code is gone and you get it smogged.
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Is the VMV (Vapor Management Valve) hooked up properly? IIRC this component is on located on the firewall kinda near the EVR (EGR Valve Regulator). I don't have experience with the EVAP monitor, but on my Connie the EGR monitor wasn't complete and the CEL also wasn't lit. I ended up replacing the DPFE sensor, doing a UIM/LIM rebuild, and changing the plugs.
If the P1000 I/M Readiness code doesn't go away you'll probably have to investigate the EVAP components to see if you missed something during the 3L install.
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Here's a bit more info from The Standard Motor web site.
So what does P1000 mean? A P1000 code means that ALL of the OBD II monitors have not been completed since the ECMâ??s memory has been cleared. It is not necessary to clear the P1000 code unless you are performing a state inspection that requires it to be cleared. This code could also be the result of the customerâ??s driving pattern not permitting all of the OBD II monitors to complete their drive cycle. A Ford OBD II drive cycle is a specific driving pattern which is used to allow the various OBD II monitors to run and be completed. The requirements for the drive cycle to complete are that all â??Tripâ? monitors are completed. A trip is defined as an engine running, vehicle moving, and the â??Tripâ? monitor has been completed. Therefore, if all OBD II trips have been completed, you have successfully completed the OBD II drive cycle. All scanners will display â??Trip Statusâ? as a â??Yesâ? or â??Noâ?. A â??Yesâ? simply means that a monitor has run. Regarding monitors, 1994 & 1995 Ford vehicles use five separate monitors. 1996 & later vehicles use as many as nine. Each monitor has its own criteria to run and complete. Each monitor is actually a test of a particular systemâ??s ability to meet and stay within operating parameters. When ALL of the monitors have run, the P1000 code will be erased. It is best to refer to the specific modelâ??s manual to determine the exact drive cycle procedure. When performing a drive cycle, a smooth, steady foot on the accelerator will be to your advantage in completing the cycle. Abrupt speed changes and erratic changes in TPS voltage will cause the ECM to take longer to complete, and may even abort certain tests. Avoid wide-open throttle, and exercise caution while driving and viewing the scan tool. Most of the scan tools will indicate each monitorâ??s status, and whether or not it has been completed. Some monitors are run continuously, and as a result will not indicate a completed status. If for some reason a â??tripâ? was not completed during a drive cycle, the ECM will not need to re-run all of the monitors. It will begin where it had left off, so it is not necessary to repeat the entire process. With OBD II if you perform a repair and want to verify that you did repair the vehicle, you must keep in mind: the systemâ??s criteria for setting a code, and whether the ECM is looking for two consecutive faults. If this is the case, then itâ??s mandatory to view the monitorâ??s status and make sure itâ??s completed. Donâ??t rely on the MIL light, because it may take two trips to come on, and that second trip will be when the customer is driving the vehicle. Mike Nieto- Ford Specialist
Hope this helps some.
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Originally posted by Big Jim: It sometimes takes a long time for the monitors to run and complete the drive cycle on some Fords, especially the Contour. You need to drive it until the P1000 code is gone. Also make sure that you don't disconnect the battery cables or interupt the keep alive memory to the PCM until the P1000 code is gone and you get it smogged.
Big Jim points out the exact thing you need to know.
My 'tour took three weeks to run the EVAP monitor. That was with the wife driving it on 80 mile per day round trips.
In regards to the drive cycle, an eight hour shutoff is required to count as a drive cycle (unless overridden).
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between 300-550 miles it was finally ready for testing...
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Nice. Thank god we don't have that shiz here.
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