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Have these protests pissed anyone else off, other than me? I mean, what are these people protesting about? They want the U.S. to not punnish those here illegally, open the borders up, and not give a care?? I can't believe the nerve of these protests. These people that are here legally should be the last to be supporting the illegals. They took their time and money to do it right, they should be pissed at these river jumpers that have no care for our laws. How can you claim to want to be in this country so bad, when it is our rule of law, along with our economy, that make us the greatest country in the world? When you ignore our right to be our own soverign nation you ignore the fact that there is a United States to begin with.

I am a huge Bush supporter as many of you know. But I have to say that him and his Republican Congress are doing a piss poor job with national security. The biggest threat to this country is not going to be a nuclear weapon delivered in missle form. Its going to walk its way right over the Mexican border. I say we build the wall, its our border we should defend it. I am sick and tired of these people that think we should be the United States of Mexico America. They want to put their Mexico before their U.S. When you put the American flag upside down under a Mexican flag that shows you want nothing more than our money. You don't come here for anything else but our money and jobs.

I for one am sick and tired of it. I wish you would hear more about the counter-protests that have been going around. Anyways, it's been a rough day for me and to come home and see on the news that these people are protesting our right to be the United States of America and not a friggin colony of Mexico, really pisses me off. I wish our so called Republican Congress would get off their politically correct asses and do something that is the right thing to do.

First of all, people that seem to have opinions on this are aware of about 5% of the facts, ...although that doesn't seem to stop them from voicing their opinion. I'm going to share a few facts with you and be as non biased as I can.

-Since 1986, when the Immigration reform and control act went into play, the US has spent tens of millions of dollars trying to tighten border security.
-A large percentage of Mexican workers are so exasperated with economic conditions in their country that they're willing to risk anything to improve the plight of their families.
-Douglas Massey (one of the countries top immigration experts) has shown that if immigrants are willing to make at least 3 attempts, they will eventually succeed in crossing into US territory.
-The estimated 7 million (or so) illegal immigrant workers in the US are now providing the system with a subsidy of as much as $7 BILLION a year. Ths amount is enormous, contibutions to Social Security added up to about 10% of last years surplus. MOREOVER, the moey paid by illegal workers and their employers IS FACTORED into all the Social Security Administrations projections. (My opinion: If we don't want them here, why do we expect/count on their money?)
- In 2002 alone, (the last year with figures released by the Social Security Admin.), nine million W-2's with incorrect Social Security numbers landed in the suspense file, accounting for $56 billion in earnings.
- According to immigration specialists, it is impossible to know exactly how many immigrants pay taxes, but most specialists agree that most of them DO.

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As long as I'm on the topic of how many ARE paying taxes, I would also like to note that they are paying them, knowing that they will not see that money again through social security or otherwise.

even mobsters pay taxes everyone forgets about sales tax and any misc taxes you pay when you have a phone and other utilities. income tax is just one tax. and yes, you are correct in that many illegals do pay taxes. many use bogus ss cards/#s so the money is taken out of the pay and just left in the system, if the employer actually even pays it.

Those are nice stats and all, but you left out one big statistic:

1) 100% of illegal immigrants are criminals.

so are people who break the speed limit.

It's not like illegal workers WANT to give a SS #. Employers will require it so that they can document the wages they pay out.