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So its a 99 Contour SE like i said. Other than the SVT's extrude honing, rear disc, and body kit..what else is so different about the SVT to the SE. I need to know what I need to do to boost my 2.5L 24vDOHC V6 in the SE to the 195 available in the SVT. Obviously intake header and exhaust is given, but what im trying to get at here is that theres some little glitch i can fix to match the SVT, i mean the motors are almost the exact same thing, extrude honing doesn't add 25 hp, maybe 10.

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see "HisSVT2" in the Chicago region. He has an SE with SVT drivetrain.


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I've driven many a SVTs, and the bigest thing I notice is the more power the SVT has before 3800 rpm. My buddy Steve (SweetSVT99) tells me that my 99 SE is jsut as quick as his 99 SVT.

All in all... I'd rather have an SVT for the exclusivity alone... other than that reason give me the cheaper insurance with my SE.

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SVT's have more compression and different cams, larger lower intake manifold, bigger fuel injectors, conical air filter, larger MAF and TB.

I'm sure I missed something.....


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A stock SVT is definitely faster than a stock 2.5 SE with a five speed, no matter what years are being compared. I have messed with a couple of 2.5 SE with five speeds and my 2000 SVT was faster every time (it was not close). I do not want to offend anyone but stock for stock the SVT is the fastest contour.

Many contour owners will be attending the CEG national meet in Dallas, TX and it looks like on Friday evening May 28 they will meet at the Texas Motorplex in Ennis. It is not clear if the CEG is just going to watch or actually participate but I am almost certain that a stock 2.5 SE five speed race against a stock SVT could be arranged. If both drivers know what they are doing, I am certain the SVT will win every time.

I am not saying and a SE can be modified to be as fast or faster than a SVT. Another way of looking at it, why would Ford make a SVT vehicle that is only as fast as the base vehicle? In my opinion, Ford took the 2.5 SE five speed and modified it to a SVT. The modifications are many.

I can believe that a SE could beat a SVT if the SVT has something wrong with it but if both cars are in equal condition, the SVT IS FASTER. END OF STORY.

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Not necessarily true in autox. I remember last year at SZ2001's autox, average time for non-SVT's are faster than SVT's. Most likely because non-SVT's are lighter and has peak torque at a little lower rpm range. Not really sure why though.


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Originally posted by dion:
SVT's have more compression and different cams, larger lower intake manifold, bigger fuel injectors, conical air filter, larger MAF and TB.

I'm sure I missed something.....
This is true. The upper intake (primaries) were extrude honed.....for about 5hp....then in 1998.5, the secondaries were extrude honed for another 5hp. The exaust cat-forward is identical.

You can add SVT UIM/LIM and TB on an SE....have about the same power output....and still run on regular fuel. wink :p laugh


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svt is designed to run on regular fuel too


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Quote:
Originally posted by AirKnight:
Not necessarily true in autox. I remember last year at SZ2001's autox, average time for non-SVT's are faster than SVT's. Most likely because non-SVT's are lighter and has peak torque at a little lower rpm range. Not really sure why though.
Proof? I've never heard this arguement before, why would the SVT torque curve be different, and where is the extra weight coming from, the body kit?!

More than likely, it was the driver..

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I have never driver an autocross and do not know much about them but isn't an autocross more of a driver's race? In an autocross the driving more complex than on a nice straight open road. If one driver has detailed knowledge of the autocross course and the others drivers do not, the driver with the detailed knowledge of the course will have a tremendous advantage over the other drivers, more than just horsepower could overcome. I do feel with equal drivers, even in an autocross the SVT would beat a 2.5 SE with a five speed.

The extra 25 to 30 horsepower of the SVT is more than enough to cancel the extra weight (100 lb?) of the SVT. I have noticed that the peak torque of the SE comes sooner than the SVT but the SVT probably has a very flat torque curve. Meaning that the SVT?s torque is probably close to the SE at the same RPMs but the SVT?s toque goes even higher (by a couple of ft-lbs) at higher RPMs and while the SE?s torque falls off. This is what I think, I am not sure of this. I am sure the SVT is faster than the 2.5 SE with a five speed, even in an autocross (with equal drivers of course).

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