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I changed the trans fluid in my SVT when Redline MTL was apparently OK to use (that merry go round of a subject is cause enough for me to loathe this car). Anyhow, that was about 25k miles ago.

When sitting at a dead stop, a strange smell tends to creep into the cabin - it's not totally constant, but it happens on a daily basis. It doesn't smell like honey roasted clutch or not enough oil in the engine - but maybe the transmission fluid cooking??

FYI - I do have difficulty shifting, particularly into 1st and 3rd.

Would this be the MTL cooking? Trans taking a dump? Delusions?

I dunno. Also, I've tried sifting through the piles of discussion surrounding the transaxle fluid of choice (for this week at least) but I think the tax code makes for a more entertaining read. Anyone have the Cliff's notes?


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If you are concerned, change it now with Ford Honey. That is what I gathered from reading the thread. Cliff Notes. You want it; you got it.


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I'm not trying to insult you or anything, but I've got to ask WHY??
Why has this redline thing turned into this kind of stuff?
Hey, I got a groan from the rear end....I got a stutter on accel.... yada yada yada ever since I put redline in my car. Think it'll blow up???

Don't you think you might want to look on your exhaust pipes or something for anything melting or burning? Have you seen fluid leaking on the ground?
Think maybe your hard to shift into 1st/3rd could be due to cable slop, binding forks, worn synchros, or the wrong fluid weight for the temperature that you operate yoru car in?



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Originally posted by warmonger:
I'm not trying to insult you or anything, but I've got to ask WHY??
Why has this redline thing turned into this kind of stuff?
Hey, I got a groan from the rear end....I got a stutter on accel.... yada yada yada ever since I put redline in my car. Think it'll blow up???




For the casual observer (read: "me"), trying to figure out what regular maintenance fluids/parts/whatever is LOATHESOME because it seems every other week the general consensus changes or availability stops.... I was just asking, not assuming...............

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Don't you think you might want to look on your exhaust pipes or something for anything melting or burning? Have you seen fluid leaking on the ground?
Think maybe your hard to shift into 1st/3rd could be due to cable slop, binding forks, worn synchros, or the wrong fluid weight for the temperature that you operate yoru car in?




Nothing is leaking. Nothing is BBQing on the exhaust pipes - it smells like cooking trans fluid. Any idea as to why? The car has 120k miles, I'm sure everything you mention is applicable. Could those things you mention cause a burning trans smell? Dallas has had a VERY mild winter this year, so improperly weighted fluid should not apply.



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Originally posted by Tony2005:
If you are concerned, change it now with Ford Honey. That is what I gathered from reading the thread. Cliff Notes. You want it; you got it.




Thanks!


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Quoting me in sections won't help you and doesn't change a darn thing. It amazes me that you would post those things that you did without any other supporting evidence other than you hated the MTL debate.

When was the last time you smelled burning redline MTL....hmm?

I doubt ever. Anything is possible, but if you ran your transmission low on lube it could smell bad....though hard to believe at least until you open it up. I'm willing to bet you may have some oil seepage on your manifolds or something because that is something you can smell. Maybe PS fluid leaks that are hitting pipes, upper manifolds?

I don't know, but knowing the routing of the pipes and such, I can't imagine it being your tranny fluid even if it were leaking.

Just change your fluid, that seems to be the answer you were looking for.


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I was quoting you in sections to make my references easier to follow...................untwist yer panties

Supporting evidence? Holy fock, I'm driving and [trying] to maintain a car, not defend myself in a goddamned trial.

I am ASKING questions.

I don't know what the hell is wrong with this car.

You made two assumptions which are incorrect. The car does not leak any fluid and there is nothing touching the exhaust pipes.

Sheeeeeeeesh......



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i am running redline tranny fluid for about 13k now.. still no problems and yes.. the car does get beat


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Originally posted by bohdi:
I was quoting you in sections to make my references easier to follow...................untwist yer panties

Supporting evidence? Holy fock, I'm driving and [trying] to maintain a car, not defend myself in a goddamned trial.

I am ASKING questions.

I don't know what the hell is wrong with this car.

You made two assumptions which are incorrect. The car does not leak any fluid and there is nothing touching the exhaust pipes.

Sheeeeeeeesh......








Okay, then lets take a step back and just view the problem from the beginning, forget what we've written before other than your car's symptoms.

All I've got is this as a symptom:
Originally posted by bohdi:
When sitting at a dead stop, a strange smell tends to creep into the cabin - it's not totally constant, but it happens on a daily basis. It doesn't smell like honey roasted clutch or not enough oil in the engine




However the irritating part was that you jumped up and asked if it was the transmission fluid burning up? Since we all loath the redline wars so much, this kind of thing doesn't help.
So if you care to add anything to your symptom list that is relevant, then please do. Otherwise, hopefully everyone with any possible experience with something like this will help to hit on the real cause.

Now just to work through this in my head:
-Car stopped
-Burn smell enters cabin
* obvious that airflow through and under the car blows away the smoke/smell when moving*
-happens every day
-doesn't smell like clutch (or brakes then)
- doesn't smell like not enough oil?? (thats new to me, I've never been able to smell lack of oil unless the engine burned up)

**So I have to go back to theory one until you provide more information. This would be that small fluid drops, and it coudl be just a few drops at a time, are dropping on a hot surface. And by the way, you can't see all the way up to your manifolds, you have no way of knowing without removing a bunch of [censored] if you have oil leaking from the rear valve cover down onto the top of the manifold. This would be the most logical culprit because when the car is not moving the small smoke vapors would be able to be sucked into the vents instead of pulled out under the car by airflow.
IF, and I say IF it were your tranny fluid in an MTX, you would need to be almost completely dry for the friction to start baking the oil. Before that happened you would be hearing noises, grinding, feeling it, and have trouble shifting I bet. This is why it is high improbable, based on the symptoms you gave above.**

Anyone else know whats up?


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**update**

Back with more info - I finally had a chance to take a closer look....

Bottom of the oil pan had this pleasant looking dark liquid substance coated evenly over it.... greeeaaat.... Now that I look back over my service records, the last oil change coincides with the BBQing SVT smell.... So, it looks like the oafs at the local lube shack overtightended the oil filter, or something.........

Now please excuse me while I go pry this size 10 from the clenches of my pearly whites....



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