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Re: how many keys does it take... #1447688 11/30/05 11:33 PM
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 56 Greenville, TX J jlyon CEG\'er
jlyon CEG\'er J Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 56 Greenville, TX	Originally posted by TourDeForce: I had one made for my '99 SE after I first bought it. Cost me $78 at the dealer... $35 just for the blank. you got off easy, we charge $88 just for the programming lets try this again. this time, lets try not to get bent outta shape:D

Re: how many keys does it take... #1447689 12/01/05 01:02 AM
Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,693 Thousand Oaks, California, USA B Big Jim_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er
Big Jim_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er B Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,693 Thousand Oaks, California, USA	Originally posted by bigMoneyRacing: Can you tell us why dealerships choose to rape us on programming a key? There is a lot of confusion over this. There is also no easy way to tell which system the car has. I'm sure that sometimes there is some greed there, but sometimes the car must be programmed using the NGS or WDS and for some unknown reason using those tools seems to require about one hour of labor. When a Service Advisor doesn't know for sure what it is going to take, he must quote the higher price or deal with an irate customer whan it doesn't work as expected. I also know that I programmed many that had the correct number of keys at no charge while the customer waited while the car was on the service drive. I wasn't the only one that did. Jim Johnson 98 SVT 03 Escape Limited

Re: how many keys does it take... #1447690 12/01/05 02:49 PM
Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 10,015 The land of Vegemite and Foste... S Stazi Hard-core CEG'er
Stazi Hard-core CEG'er S Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 10,015 The land of Vegemite and Foste...	I had an extra key made for free when I bought my car used - as the second key was missing. From what I understand there is a timing delay of like 45 minutes built into the ECU that you need to wait before the PATS system is ready to accept the new key. 2000 SVT Turbo 295hp/269ftlb@12psi #1 for Bendix Brakes Kits! Knuckles rebuilt w/new bearings $55 AUSSIE ENDLINKS $70 Gutted pre-cats $80/set A lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine!

Re: how many keys does it take... #1447691 12/01/05 05:10 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 712 northeast ohio S Stylin55_oh OP Veteran CEG\'er
OP Stylin55_oh Veteran CEG\'er S Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 712 northeast ohio	pats key can i buy this.. cut it and hope my car is a new enough 98 to let it program itself?? if not take it to the dealer? 1998.5 Diamond White Pearl SVT (#4725) custom exhaust/intake k&N/mod'ed y-pipe slotted rotors/greenstuff pads/SS lines cougar trans/FSVT shift tower/Torsen 16lb. flywheel 18" Velox VX-8's with some rubba bands

Re: how many keys does it take... #1447692 12/02/05 05:22 AM
Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,693 Thousand Oaks, California, USA B Big Jim_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er
Big Jim_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er B Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,693 Thousand Oaks, California, USA	There is no "let it program itself". If you have an early enough 98 you can add a key with one already functioning key. If it is a later 98 or newer you will need to have someone program the car to accept the new key using a WDS or NGS. There are some locksmiths as well as independent shops that can do this, but they are few and far between. Most likely you will need to take it to a dealer and pay for the service. I would highly recomend that you add enough keys to end up with at least three so that if you loose one in the future you can replace it without going to the dealer. Adding a third key is something I did imediately when I bought both the Contour and the Escape. Jim Johnson 98 SVT 03 Escape Limited

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