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Zetec. Now you can take an already slow car, and make it just a little less slow.
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Given the history of the V-6, just put your efforts into the Zetec with a turbo kit & have some fun. For no other reason than the fact that is has rarely been done.
If the V-6 needs attention at a later date, drop a 3L into it.
Must be that jumbly-wumbly thing happening again.
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Originally posted by TourDeForce:
Given the history of the V-6, just put your efforts into the Zetec with a turbo kit & have some fun. For no other reason than the fact that is has rarely been done.
If the V-6 needs attention at a later date, drop a 3L into it.
I agree.
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Build the Zetec. Its block can stand more boost, so with an unlimited budget it may well be capable of more total power.
. . . Two zetec Contours, two blown head gaskets... for some reason I have a Japanese car now.
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Originally posted by cheapest GL around:
Build the Zetec. Its block can stand more boost, so with an unlimited budget it may well be capable of more total power.
How can it's block stand more boost? Please do tell where this information stems from.
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Which reminds me, is the Duratec all-aluminum? I know the Zetec has an Iron block with alum heads, but not sure about the Duratec.
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Realistically both of those cars have WAY too many miles on them to be "boosting" on. You'd basically have to rebuild the entire engine from the pan up, AND the tranny cos with that many miles on both cars, the drivelines must be SHAGGED!
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Originally posted by Stazi:
Realistically both of those cars have WAY too many miles on them to be "boosting" on. You'd basically have to rebuild the entire engine from the pan up, AND the tranny cos with that many miles on both cars, the drivelines must be SHAGGED!
Very true. Either project is going to run you some serious coin. Pan up engine rebuild will run in the neighborhood of $1500 for parts. Then a tranny rebuild and upgrade to LSD w/ HI-PO clutch is another $1200+ in parts. Then you've got your turbo/supercharger. Look to spend no less than $6k to have a decent, reliable F/I'd car, either way you go. This is assuming you'll be doing all of the work yourself, and/or you can get awesome deals on parts.
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Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by Stazi:
Realistically both of those cars have WAY too many miles on them to be "boosting" on. You'd basically have to rebuild the entire engine from the pan up, AND the tranny cos with that many miles on both cars, the drivelines must be SHAGGED!
Very true. Either project is going to run you some serious coin. Pan up engine rebuild will run in the neighborhood of $1500 for parts. Then a tranny rebuild and upgrade to LSD w/ HI-PO clutch is another $1200+ in parts. Then you've got your turbo/supercharger. Look to spend no less than $6k to have a decent, reliable F/I'd car, either way you go. This is assuming you'll be doing all of the work yourself, and/or you can get awesome deals on parts.
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yes,I completely realize this and was going to have a complete pan up rebuild. All new seals,gaskets,bearings,internals,everything. It will be a brand new motor when it is done. I was expecting just to build the engine (before turbo or SC) to run me atleast $5000,so I know what I'm getting into. The shop that will be doing the work (I have no time due to working 6 days/48 hrs wk,nowhere to work on it and don't have all the necessary tools) is the shop I used to work for,so my labour rate is going to be $20/hr instead of $40,and a friend of mine works at a Ford dealer and can get me parts at cost. So I'm set pretty much. I know I can be spending as much as $10k on the engine. I'll say anywhere between 5-10k would be realistic to have the motor,turbo,tranny and driveline done. Then factor in about 3k for paint,$1k for tires,1500 for suspension,and yeah....lots of $$$$. It's ok though,I'm in no rush to have it completed. I don't care if it takes 6 months,8,10,12,18,24,36 months....just as long as it gets done,and done right,then I'm happy  .
Anyways,at the moment,I am leaning toards the Zetec. I haven't touched that car,so it'll be a blank canvas,whereas my Duratec has been modded and been troublesome,and everything I;ve done to it was going to get redone. Just keep the V6 as my beater,so I'll have a modified daily beater while the Zetec gets built,and then when the Zetec is done,it'll be nucking futs.
So far I am really surprised that the majority of the club has said to build the Zetec over the Duratec,when I bought the Duratec to replace a Zetec ATX in the first place! Things are going full circle! 
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Didn't you get rid of a Zetec for the Duratec?
The if your zetec makes the Duratec feel slow, then that car has some issues, and if you're going to be re-building the V6 anyways why not add the "goodies" while your at it.
Also, if the zetec is being more reliable, wouldn't it make more sense to keep it as your daily driver?
Though for the money you'd spend boosting either of thoes cars, and considering their mileage I'd sell both and go buy this.
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