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i dont want to do this swap so lets get that out of the way first. i was just wondering if anyone on here had done anything like this. i figure it would make for a quick car considering the contour is lighter than a stock v6 sho.
again, i dont want to do this. just curious if anyone else has thought of it or done it.
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Nope and Nope.
SHO motor too big.
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Any one tried it with the Yamaha V-8?
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Originally posted by Number47:
Any one tried it with the Yamaha V-8?
neither one will fit. Both have been hashed over ad nausuem.
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Plus the SHO gen 1/2 motors have there fair share of problems. That and you can't get parts for them anymore. I just got rid of my 94 SHO and that car was problems from day 1. The 3rd gen SHO's had even worse problems. The cam gears have the tendency of walking and causing all sorts of valvetrain problems. The SHO Shop has a fix for this, but it comes at a pretty good cost. There was a guy that fixed his car after his cam gear walked and after everything was said and done he had close to 20k in it(to me this number seems high, but thats the number that was going around). Either way I would take a 2001 3L Sable/Taurus engine over the SHO motors anyday.
But as Dennis Miller says... This is just my opinion I could be wrong...
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I don't think the word for the V6 Yamahammer is 'problems,' maintenance whore, yes. The only 'downside,' IMO is the availability of parts on the motors, but they can still be had. The Gen III motors are the 'same' as the 2.5L Duratec. The Cam fix problem is simple as long as its caught BEFORE hand. ~500 to have the cams welded and you'll have a long lasting motor. And Matt, as everyone else said, its been hashed tons of times over. I won't say its IMPOSSIBLE to stuff t he Yamahammer in the CDW27 engine bay since it was done to a Focus. Just gonna take someone with lots of skills and/or money. Originally posted by SHOTIME2669:
Plus the SHO gen 1/2 motors have there fair share of problems. That and you can't get parts for them anymore. I just got rid of my 94 SHO and that car was problems from day 1. The 3rd gen SHO's had even worse problems. The cam gears have the tendency of walking and causing all sorts of valvetrain problems. The SHO Shop has a fix for this, but it comes at a pretty good cost. There was a guy that fixed his car after his cam gear walked and after everything was said and done he had close to 20k in it(to me this number seems high, but thats the number that was going around). Either way I would take a 2001 3L Sable/Taurus engine over the SHO motors anyday.
But as Dennis Miller says... This is just my opinion I could be wrong...
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Originally posted by SHOTIME2669:
Plus the SHO gen 1/2 motors have there fair share of problems.
Since when? More stout than the rest of the car.
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I'd have to agree. Seems from what I know the SHO has proven a more relaiable motor than the Contour has. Granted I run them in a bit more punishing ways...but I know of a car that went through two CTSVT motors and swaped to the SHO for reliability. SHO certainly had the poorer vehicle build I'd say.
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Todd at TCE, are you the same todd who is on www.nloc.net who does brake upgrades?
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Originally posted by todras :
Since when? More stout than the rest of the car.
Originally posted by RTStabler51:
I don't think the word for the V6 Yamahammer is 'problems,' maintenance whore, yes.
I did my maintenance on the car with all OEM Ford issued parts (dad works for Ford so I got 25% off) I paid a hefty price over at Courtney Truck Service in Eden Praire who are widely known in the SHO world as the 'SHO specilists' for the 5 state area (with the exception of Performance Plus in WI). But I still had 'problems' with the car.
It never ran right. I searched out the entire electrical system. The EGR code 332 always showed up. Typically this was due the to EGR tube running down to the manifolds clogging up or the simple O2 sensor going bad. I replaced the O2 sensors and took the EGR system apart and it was clean as a whistle (as clean as it could be). I ended up going through the entire EGR systems components and replacing them all (the car had 100k on it didn't seem like a bad idea). Still the car never ran right. As a side note these EGR tubes sometimes even had holes in them and the tube itself is no longer available just like every other part for this engine (from Ford anyway).
While this was going on the ATX gave out, which had no abuse and had general maintenance peformed on it. Yet another poor decision by Ford, but since we are talking about just the engine I'll leave that one alone.
Next comes the ignition system. The DIS modules on these cars suck royally. That and they are expensive. I had to replace mine at 108k. Grant it I guess you can't expect electrically components to last forever but plenty of guys have had there fair share of problems with these things.
Then the possible solution arose to problem one. After talking on the phone with Courtney Truck Service for a while we came to the conclusion that the ECU could be the problem. The mechanics there had seen this type of problem many times before (surging during normal driving ie not running right). They said they have searched these cars completely over just like I had and they came to the solution of replacing the ECU, which seemed to solve the problems.
Before I had a chance to replace the ECU my A/C compressor clutch blew out. After researching the problem I found that my high pressure sensor in the A/C line gave out and that the clutch stayed engaged building up to much pressure, which led to its death. I replaced the A/C compressor and the sensor. This fixed the problem, but again just another bump in the road.
Anyhow I have more to write but this post is already long and I think you get the idea. If your still skeptical feel free to visit the SHOforum or SHOtimes to find more information about SHO 'problems' and you'll see what I'm trying to relay here.
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