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Originally posted by Swazo:

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The fact that the Mexican drug runners and coyotes have put bounties on the Minutemen's heads tells me who's really getting hit by their actions.

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Hmmm....a lot of them live around here.....sounds like some easy money to be made. thanks for the tip, ive got some phone calls to make.

Originally posted by Swazo:

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Then the many, many hard working good people of Mexico can become legal citizens of the United States of America the correct way.

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sure, if you dont mind half of our country's agricultural recources being put on pause for, oh...say ten years or so. then again, maybe some of you young college freshmen that are complaining about your lousy Bestbuy and Walmart jobs would like to pick fruit and veggies in the hot sun for $6+ an hour, for 12 hours, for six days a week. get out those $100 shades boys

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the LA Times has an interesting article in today's paper about agricultural labor and the present lack thereof. They said that due to tighter border security it is getting much harder to find workers to place in the fields. They said that most legalized Mexican workers are moving to better-paying jobs like construction. One illegal worker said that living in CA is getting to be so expensive that coming all the way up here to work isnt worth it anymore and the he is going back home. SO, that means LOTS of available labor jobs ready for the average American to jump right into! who's ready? either you guys do it or the price of agricultural goods will be skyrocketing. and just because it's that might happen in CA doesnt mean it wont affect the price of oranges and bread in Indiana.

Originally posted by "svt4stv":

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...sounds like some easy money to be made. thanks for the tip, ive got some phone calls to make.

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either you guys do it or the price of agricultural goods will be skyrocketing.

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Originally posted by 96RedSE5Sp:

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99SESPORT

So when you state that "Christian principles work" you are suggesting that the overriding be-all and end-all of Christian principles is blind faith and loyalty to the present government and all its laws and lawmakers? Wasn't Christianity itself illegal in the Roman Empire for several centuries? According to your belief, wasn't practicing Christianity therefore unchristian.

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Is your view on illegal imigration based solely upon the fact that it is technically illegal according to our current laws or do you have an independent Christian basis for opposing illegal immigration? If the laws were to suddenly change so as to decriminalize illegal immigration, would it be your Christian duty to change your personal opinion?

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It seems to me that if we were a true Christian nation with Christain leadership, that the obviously Christian thing to do would be to welcome unfortunate citizens from around the world to our country. If Jesus were in charge, would He really turn down these people at the borders and/or have them arrested?

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Originally posted by svt4stv:

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Originally posted by Corbett:

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Originally posted by LocoSCZ:

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Some of my family members have came to this country illegaly. ALl of them had NOTHING when they came here. All of of them have busted their A$$ (more than people like YOU would) to make a living for themselves. Spending AMERICAN DOLLARS on AMERICAN ITEMS to send back to Mexico to help out their families. All of my family that have came here are legal now but never asked for anything in return. And guess what? They pay taxes like you or me; now and back then when they were illegal.

Now put yourself in someone else's shoes before making bonehead comments like you did.

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Ahhh so now we know why you support illegal immigrants. Well I still disagree. The ends do not justify the means. No matter how good of a person they are, it is still illegal.

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so what youre saying Corbett, is that if millions of Mexicans, Haitians and whoever came here and used up all of our resources like schools, hospitals, tax dollars and quality breathing air, you'd have no problem with that as long as they had a little piece of paper making it "legal". Riiiiight. why dont you just admit that you dont want Mexican, or other, people coming here period. Stop trying to mask it with "right and wrong" bs.
a nation full of anglo Bilble-thumpers. ahhh paradise!

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Originally posted by loggerbomb:

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oh and to be clear on something else, jesus is not God, he is the son of god.

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Originally posted by svt4stv:

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the danger? of eating fruit picked by "criminals?"

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No, the criminals that come across the "open" US/Mexico border as the migrant workers do. They can stay in Mexico for all I care, but I don't see any problem with contributing people from becoming Americans.

Let President Fox deal with them rather than expecting America to. He's one of the biggest problems with this issue.

Also, the Minuetmen are serving American intereset in a non-violent way. Start to worry when the ignorant amoungst our citizens see them get attacked, and the violence will surley begin. Drug runners and coyotes should be snipped off, that wouldn't keep me from sleeping at night one bit. So I'm glad the Minuetmen are a thorn in their side and for you to want to stop them makes your POV questionable.

Cheap veggies are not worth getting the trash of Mexico in exchange. There are ways to allow people to enter America with some reform, which is needed. But to allow people to enter our country unchecked is foolish.

The talk about how illegal immigrants pay taxes, but don't get anything back is flat out BS! Look at LA county and all of it's hospitals that have shut down from all the uninsured illegal immigrants and every other source of public aide they've overburdend. The ends do not justify the means. I'd gladly pay more for veggies and fruit to avoid that BS....... actually I do since I buy all organic grown food stuffs that are locally grown.

I've spent more time in California than Utah in the last 2 years in my line of work. I had a reality check when I noticed the huge change, even from the mid-90's when I lived in Westminister/Hunnington Beach area. It's time for change now.

Originally posted by Swazo:

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I had a reality check when I noticed the huge change, even from the mid-90's when I lived in Westminister/Hunnington Beach area. It's time for change now.

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well i guess you happened to not notice that its too late for change. about twenty years too late. but if you think sniping, or minutemanning, or keeping mexican trash in mexico is really going to do anything, than more power to you.

ps is organic food picked by the organic food fairy? just curious.. being that theyre not sprayed with bad chemicals and what not, does that mean that the store owner's grandmother herself is out there picking fruit and veggies for all these healthy nutritious people?

and btw, i live in LA, i am well aware of our hospital closures. youre right, they close because of tons of people who are uninsured. youre wrong if you think its all illegal mexican trash that sitting in the waiting rooms without insurance. pleny o white folks sitting in there too. and tons of black people as well. in fact, i know plenty of people who actually have well paying jobs but cant afford health insurance and must go to these hospitals when they get sick. in fact, a professor i had at cal state northridge last year (she's white) has a grandson who's parents both have full time jobs that dont provide medical insurance. guess what, the poor kid got cancer at 2 years old. he's at children's hospital on a full ride (paid by the state). she said the hospital actually sent the parents a bill for a few thousand $ a day for treatment, for going on over a year. now granted, theyre citizens, but dont think for a minute that mexican illegal trash are the only ones using free medical care. and this family with the poor cancer-stricken child isnt the exception to the rule either. in fact, most of the time when illegals visit the hospital its only when they absolutely have to, like when they have a severe flu. and i think you'd be hard-pressed to find an illegal immigrant's two year old getting free $100k a year cancer treatments, but that's just a guess.