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I can't believe what some people are saying on this. Best Scam said that it was going to be free, then changed their minds about it. If they said they were going to charge him after they did the work, then what they did was illegal. Second, he was paying in LEGAL U.S MONEY! If he was paying for a $2000 T.V. with $20 bills, would that have been "frowned" apon or should have he ran to the bank (again) to make it easier for the company to take his money? They are providing a SERVICE to the people, and yes they are making money but if this is how they treat paying customers then there is something seriously wrong. I mean if you go to McD's and get a cheeseburger and you pay with quarters does that mean the cook can spit in your food?
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That's insane. You can't change your mind and charge someone ex post facto and you can't shackle someone to a poll because paying with $2 bills is a little strange. Originally posted by Antiramie:
Moral of the story: Don't go to Best Buy to have any car audio components installed...
So true...
Best Buy doesn't know what the hell they're doing. Do it yourself.
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When one is unsure or unequiped to perform a task, they call someone who can. The store probably would have never questioned a thing if the man were not purposly an assh*le. He did it to himself and has no grounds for suit...
Well, Duh! If he wasn't an "assh*le" by paying with $2 bills than there would have been nothing to question at all would there? There's no "probably" about it.
Perhaps he should have just paid with counterfeit 20s. Then he wouldn't have been an "assh*le" because he paid with large bills and they wouldn't have questioned anything. And all would have been well.
You keep saying that he has no grounds for suit because he was an assh*le -- well, last time I checked, being an assh*le didn't preclude one from protection of the law. You can be the biggest prick in the world, but I'll still get charged with Battery for hitting you, no matter how much you 'deserved' it.
What if instead of being an "assh*le" by paying with $2 bills (which I still don't see how that's bad; I've been a cashier before, it was all money to me, I didn't give a damn what it was) he paid with regular ol' 20s. Perfectly legitimate 20s. And the ink smeared as the ink does on most any real bill; it's fake bills that often won't smear at all. Anyone that worked in retail handling money more than a couple days would know that ink smears on legitimate bills. But, the smearing ink freaked out the managers, they called the cops, and they shackled the man to a pole. A man who paid with perfectly legitimate bills and no ill-tidings towards the store at all, but he got shackled to a pole. What if that happened? Would you feel the same way?
What if it was you. You wanted to buy a TV at Best Buy, you went to the bank and got $2000 in 20s. Some of them happened to be sequential. You paid for your TV, but the ink smeared on them, which will happen since they were crisp new 20s. The store led you to the office while they called the police -- no big deal, right? You didn't do anything wrong. But then the police tell you that you're going to have to go to jail. So they handcuff you and lead you through the store so that everyone in town can see -- all of them presuming that you were either shoplifting or counterfeiting. Then, when you get to jail they put you in leg irons, and shackle you to a pole to wait a few hours until the Secret Service shows up to verify what you knew all along -- that your bills were perfectly legitimate and you did nothing wrong. How would you feel about that?
I don't have a particular problem with Best Buy calling the police, although I do think they were being overly zealous in doing so. I don't believe they would have done the same with any other customer. They apparently led the man somewhere and had him sit and wait for the police to arrive -- a responsible and respectable thing to do.
But the actions of the police were despicable. Here was a man that obviously had no intentions of running, he was sitting in a chair in the store, obviously no flight risk and they decide to cuff him and cart him off to jail for no reason whatsoever. I might even buy the fact that they had legitimate cause to take him to jail to wait for the Secret Service. But then, while in jail, they not only leave him cuffed, but the put leg irons on the guy and shackle him to a pole. You shackle dogs to poles, you shackle homicidal maniacs with leg-irons to poles, you don't shackle a guy that you suspect is a counterfeiting two-dollar bills to a friggin' pole. End of Story.
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Originally posted by 99blacksesport:
Originally posted by svt4stv:
Originally posted by Majisto:
If somebody has any suspicion of you, you can be dragged kicking and screaming away from your family for the "security" of our nation. It doesn't matter that you did nothing wrong.
God bless the Patriot Act! 
WTF does this have to do with the patriot act?!?! Why it was ever brought up in the first place is beyond me. It has nothing to do with the patriot act, quit trying to bring Republican Vs Democrat in where it's not warranted for the sake of starting a fight.
who said anything about donkeys vs elephants?  dont get your panties in a bunch i was simply making a semi-sarcastic remark to his comment. blind-obediance to political affliation has nothing to do with it. im sure there are people from both groups who disagree and agree with the act. so stop baiting my flame 
anyways,
yes, the store does have a right to call the police if they suspect counterfeit money. you know what? the guy also had/has the right to walk right out of the store without paying for what was already done. they did the work, and then told him it would be free. it sure as hell wouldnt be stealing, although technically they could sue him to recover their $114.
AKSSVT put it perfect in his post. ANY manager worth his salt should have been able to solve this problem before the police were even called. if a store manager can't figure out if a $2 is a fake, then he is the wrong guy for the job. yes, i realize that there are probably a few counterfeiters out there who are making sh*t sooo real that trained eyes have trouble with them....but a $2 bill? $114?? come on.. that dummy manager should have been thinking about the repricussions of his actions if he was wrong! can you say "bad publicity???"  and yeah, he is subjecting the company, and himself, to a lawsuit with a very valid claim. annnnnd possibly losing his own job when upper management hears about it on the six o'clock news. duh! for $114 in $2 bills 
if a vp calls him to inquire about an email he just got from the legal department, what's he going to say? "um yes sir, i really did think the $2 were phony." "um yes sir, i thought it was necessary to have him handcuffed in front of the entire store to see until the police came to arrest him." "yes sir, i did think about the possible negative effects the situation could have on the store's publicity and decided it was worth it anyway."
man, if i were that guy, id go in there next week with $5k in $2 bills to buy a new tv.  actually naw, id do it at circuit city down the street and made sure that he knew about it.
Originally posted by Tourgasm:
Sometimes you can mess up a word so bad that spell check doens't know what the hell you're talking about.
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Originally posted by 98 SE:
I agree. How many of you have seen 57 two-dollar bills in one sitting? Would you believe they're real if an already-angry customer is trying to pay with them?
I used to collect them when I was a kid. I believe I had roughly 200 at one point.
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