Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
#99185 06/21/01 03:14 PM
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 3,248
D
Member
OP Offline
Member
D
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 3,248
I was looking at the 3.4L V8 SHO specs and realized that the bore/stroke are the same as the 2.5L Duratec (Basically grafted on 2 cylinders, still has same 60 degree V angle). I'm now wondering if they used the same rods and pistons or did Yamaha throw in some nice forged parts (that may fit our cars)? Anybody know?


1999 Amazon Green SVT Contour (#554/2760)
Stock SVT Duratec V6 with:
Intake- K&N filter/75mm MAF meter
Exhaust- MSDS Y-pipe/Bassani catback
Durability-Ford "dual mode" damper, Mobil 1/K&N oil filter
179.2 FWHP at 6900 RPM
#99186 06/21/01 03:24 PM
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 3,598
S
Member
Offline
Member
S
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 3,598
Dunno, I was entertaining the notion sometime last year. It would be nice to know what Ford did for the Indigo concept as well....


\'94 Cobra #4963/5009, black on black, not quite stock
Formerly owned a black '00 SVT, #1972
Join the SVTOA!
RIP - Ray "Old Fart Emeritus" McNairy
#99187 06/21/01 05:58 PM
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 34
F
Member
Offline
Member
F
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 34
That's an awesome idea... The 4.6 piston would take some subterfuge to get into the 3.0, but the 3.4 might just be a little easier..

#99188 06/22/01 04:37 PM
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 620
G
Moderator
Offline
Moderator
G
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 620
That's a very good question, and I'd be interested in knowing the answer myself. My take on this is that any stresses from the higher hp output of the SHO get distributed amongst the parts associated with the two extra cylinders. What was the power rating of the SHO V8 - around 240hp? That's 30hp/cylinder the SHO V8, compared with 33hp/cylinder for the SVT 2.5L and 28 hp/cylinder for the non-SVT 2.5L. So I would guess that the rods and pistons in the SHO V8 are under less stress (individually) compared with the ones in the SVT 2.5L, and I'll speculate that Ford used the same ones.


Black '98.0 GL V6/MTX, tints, SVT airbox (sans fender boot), stock muffler replaced with spiral racing muffler, A6 side markers, Cougar 16" polished wheels w/ bald 205/50/16 Yoko A520's, Mobil 1 5W30, Castrol SATF/Ford FM tranny cocktail, 9005 high-beam bulbs all around, re-aimed stock foglights
#99189 06/24/01 02:39 AM
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 1,847
S
Member
Offline
Member
S
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 1,847
Wasn't the SHO V8 a Yamaha design, just like the older SHO V6? Or am I way off base here?


"When I take action, I'm not going to fire a $2 million missile at a $10 empty tent and hit a camel in the butt. It's going to be decisive." - President George W. Bush

95 Contour SE ATX V6
"Cracked" Secondaries
DMD Installed
SVT Brakes
#99190 06/24/01 03:42 AM
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 529
D
Member
Offline
Member
D
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 529
Quote:
Originally posted by Sandman333:
Wasn't the SHO V8 a Yamaha design, just like the older SHO V6? Or am I way off base here?


Yup...they are both a Yamaha design.


Andrew Morris
\'99 SE Zetec ATX
All of life's big problems include the words "indictment" or "inoperable." Everything else is small stuff.
#99191 06/24/01 04:18 AM
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 3,598
S
Member
Offline
Member
S
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 3,598
Quote:
Originally posted by Sandman333:
Wasn't the SHO V8 a Yamaha design, just like the older SHO V6? Or am I way off base here?


Bottom end was essentially 1.33 Duratec shortblocks. Top end was 100% Yamaha.


\'94 Cobra #4963/5009, black on black, not quite stock
Formerly owned a black '00 SVT, #1972
Join the SVTOA!
RIP - Ray "Old Fart Emeritus" McNairy
#99192 06/24/01 02:48 PM
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 1,847
S
Member
Offline
Member
S
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 1,847
So does this mean we could put the older SHO intake/heads on the Duratec, especially a 3.0L coversion? Other than the obvious computer/sensor related and possible hod clearance issues, would it bolt up?

I heard an older SHO take off at WOT the other day, what a sweet sound that made!

laugh laugh laugh laugh


"When I take action, I'm not going to fire a $2 million missile at a $10 empty tent and hit a camel in the butt. It's going to be decisive." - President George W. Bush

95 Contour SE ATX V6
"Cracked" Secondaries
DMD Installed
SVT Brakes
#99193 06/25/01 03:39 AM
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 1,861
B
Member
Offline
Member
B
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 1,861
NO! NO! NO!

The older SHO was completely different from the V8 SHO. The V6 SHO was fully a Yamaha design, but the block was based on the old 3.0 Vulcan design. Nothing on the SHO V6 fits onto a Duratec.

The V8 SHO is essentually a 2.5 Duratec with two additional cylinders. The V is a 60 degree just like the Duratec. It includes a balance shaft to help make it smooth.

I don't know just how much Yamaha collaborated in the design, but the parts were all made in the USA and then shipped to Japan where Yamaha assembled it for Ford. At least that is what I remember reading when the V8 SHO was first introduced.


Jim Johnson
98 SVT

Moderated by  GTO Pete 

Link Copied to Clipboard
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5