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Hi,
I was just wondering it just doesnt seem possible to add a S/C to your tour and not have it do some major wear and tear on you car. Are you taking a car that might last over 100k miles and killing the engine at about 50k or less depending on when you add the charger.
I dont work on cars so that is why im asking . It just doesnt seem like a car built for around 200hp can handle an extra 31% hp without doing some major wear to the rings and pistons,bearings and rods. Also I imagine your tires/brakes and clutch dont like it much either.
What do you guys thing. Is this true or do I have it all wrong.
Thanks Brian
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Will it kill it; that is the question. Definitely not, assuming that you just install it and look at the fine job you did.  Wanting to take it out and use it for all its worth will defiantly kill it (ask the ever present bnoon). In general I would surmise that it will cause more wear and tear than a unmodified version of the same model, assuming that you are going to get out there and get it, even if only on occasion. I think in the long run it all depends on how hard you drive the car, how much regular maintenance you would make available on said car, and how much you love to drive. I think that is what you have to weigh. Im direct answer to your question i would say yes, more wear. But even that would depend on what other mods/upgrades you would also get to combat the added stresses of a s/c. I keep hearing all these tales of the s/c SVT and it gives me the shivers and I wanna do it so bad, but I know if I did it I would be in a heap of trouble. I cant keep myself outta trouble with 200hp let alone what the s/c would add (not to make myself look like an idiot or anything – doh!  ). Seriously though, I would want to take it out and see what that MF could do. Sorry kind of long just my .03. And please keep flames to a min, i am putting forth my best SWAG (scientific wild ass guess) and can not speak of personal experience with a s/c on any of my cars.
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Was it ever proved the the S/C was the cause of Mr.Noon's engine blowing??
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Increasing power drastically (S/C gives more like a 50% increase btw) will definately increase the wear rate of the engine. However, there are far too many other factors involved to say "it will decrease your engine's life by XX%. I have seen supercharged Mustangs go nearly 100K miles w/ hardly a problem, but I have also seen them blow up after 5k miles.
The bigest factor really is how the engine is used. ie there is a reason race engines are rebuilt far, far more often than your average toyota camry or ford taurus.
It's all about balance.
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. ie there is a reason race engines are rebuilt far, far more often than your average toyota camry or ford taurus.[/QB]
Is this because race engine builders aren't as good as Camray and Taurus engine builders?? yuk yuk ..... jj
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Originally posted by Antonio Wright: Was it ever proved the the S/C was the cause of Mr.Noon's engine blowing?? No sir it wasnt, may i please have another. My point was that if you have that kind of resources on hand you are probably going to use them, thus causing more wear on other components (maybe a certain oil sump/return system possibly leading to catastrophic events). I wouldnt see the poing of putting on an s/c and making a point of always driving in a school zone. Point to be noted though.
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Hey Brad care to comment on how long you ran the UDP before you put on the SC? You lost bearings correct? I have to say no the SC will not kill it, at least not that quickly. Yes anything you do to increase HP on your car is fundamentally bad for the engine. The engine was designed as a passenger car engine, then SVT engineer guru's (TH included) went nutz on it. The factor of extra horsepower that is available in the engine is unknown to me personally, but I have heard that 350 on stock components is not too bad.
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Judge- good point.
Everyone else- unless you are the one tearing down and diagnosing brad's engine then i suggest you keep your comments to yourself. no one wants to hear your speculation about how brad's motor failed, why it failed, or otherwise. atleast give some logical reason to backup your claims. so far here is all the logic i can find on this board regaurding super charger failure. 1) Brad noon had a supercharger 2) His motor failed 3) All cars with superchargers will have motor failure.
sounds like a piss poor argument to me, go get more facts, and more cases to backup your claims, and then maybe i will start to believe that the s/c was the cause of brad's motor failure. not saying it is not possible, just asking people to stop spreading all this crap about the s/c blowing up engines.
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It's all about balance.
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they have brake pedals too. you might not want to use yours... i suggest using a parachute...
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