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#1256521 04/24/05 02:40 PM
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i think we've beaten this horse already. about 6 times in the last month.


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Have the government take over their pensions:

Pension and other benefits add the following to each car:
GM: $1,360.00
Ford: $734.00
DCX: $631.00
Honda: $107.00
Toyota: $190.00

Of course this isn't helping them much either:

Average Inventives per Car :
GM -- $3513
Ford -- $2797
Chrysler -- $3541
Nissan -- $1994
Toyota -- $931
Honda -- $731


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Originally posted by sigma:
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Average Inventives per Car :
GM -- $3513
Ford -- $2797
Chrysler -- $3541
Nissan -- $1994
Toyota -- $931
Honda -- $731





Whats ironic is leading sales are in that very reverse order, Honda at the top, and GM at the back...


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Originally posted by sigma:
Have the government take over their pensions:





Uh, NOOOO!!!! Why the hell should every American taxpayer including ME have to pay the pension bills for a multibillion corporation, one that willingly entered into the obligation to pay those pensions? One that last month paid Fiat $2 Billion to get out of a deal wherein Fiat could have forced GM to buy Fiat's failing automotive operations? Poor, sad GM.

Try building a top quality product, one that can compete with the current generation of Hondas and Toyotas, not something like the new Pontiac G6 - a car that's barely up to the bar set by the last generation Accord and Camry instead of setting the bar higher than those cars are. Then you won't have to tack on several thousand $$ of incentives to sell your cars, they'll sell themselves at or near MSRP and cover that pension burden.

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Originally posted by baco99:
i think we've beaten this horse already. about 6 times in the last month.




yeah so leave me the F&@# alone!


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Originally posted by Horse:
Originally posted by baco99:
i think we've beaten this horse already. about 6 times in the last month.




yeah so leave me the F&@# alone!






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i am so glad that the company i work for invested millions of dollars in a fund just for pensions...a very nice investment that looks to be enough to last for a long time....or at least long enough for me to get mine ..


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I thought you worked for the purple people (Fed Up.. I eman, Fed Ex???)


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Originally posted by LilStripedRocket:
I thought you worked for the purple people (Fed Up.. I eman, Fed Ex???)




i do so what does that matter??????????????????

i've been with the company for 13 years,and in addition to a pension, i have a pretty nice rsp that is company matched each year,that is going to be a nice chunk of change when i retire...


people in charge of investments were smart enough to invest millions of dollars in a fund specifically for retirement,the only thing it is used for...

they also did the same thing for healthcare as well....they have leterally millions of dollars invested in several areas as such,so that we don't have to rely on what profit is made per pkg. to pay for things like tha...very good financial planning, more companies should do things the same way


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