Contour Enthusiasts Group Archives Forums Modifications Duratec Performance 2.5L with 200FWHP??

Dan,
What gains do you think one would get with:
Headers
2.5" catback w/ high flow cat
Programmable ECU
Hot cams
and those SHO shop butterflies?

Actually, what kind of gains would one see from just the butterflies on a stock motor? Do you think they have potential?

We went over this a few months back talked to some guys at schrick and talked with Terry. The Vectra in europe uses a quad cam 2.5 liter motor and a schrick swap netted about 28 bhp out of it prior to the swap the car made 200. I only use this because of the simalar size motor. SVE made some 270 degree cams as opposed to the 250 degree in there now. One, if not the most powerful motors on this board has those cams running in it.
I would bet that say some 266 cams and pcm along with headders and cat back all designed to work together would net you the 40 hp at the crank you want. I only wish these parts were made.
Its to bad that piper does not make the cams, v-springs, along with there headders and cat back. they do make some nice goods.
Another thing to look at is the new ST mondeo the 220. the V-valve timing is for emmisions yet the car puts out 220 hp in the same 2.5 block of our contour.
Lastly I couldnt agree more cams at say even $1000.00 that could add a good 20 wheel horse punch in the upper RPM range and only take say a 2-4 ft/lb trq loss in the swap would be ideal. Add to that headders for another 10 wheel hp and 10 ft/lb with a match cat back for another 4 hp would be just what the doctor ordered. Sorry for the damn long post.

Im almost at 200 wheel hp N/A

I'm at 185 now and I'm doing the headers this week. Hope to dyno close to 200 hp

Zach

How did you get to 185 to the wheels without a set of headers??

Looks like a little interest anyway. You guys had some interesting persective on cams. I agree the SVT cams are pretty good, but with more CR they may have room for improvement?? Sent a e-mail to Piper cams, UK to see if they can do anything for us. Not sure if these would be cost effective or not - may run $1000 so I will not be doing this anytime soon.

Certainly, the first steps for our engines is the exhaust (headers, Y-pipe, catback) and intake filter. This is worth about 20HP, and would not even think about the other mods until all trhis was done.

What do you think about boosting compression with thinnner, solid copper head gaskets & some milling? Any thoughts how much increase we could get without valves hitting.

I'm hoping we wil have some better ECU options than superchips. The Diablo chip sounds interesting. SHO-Shop may also make a LPM for the SVT. With the exhaust opened up, a good ECU upgrade may be truly benificial. I dont know why alot of people want to chip first - this should be last and dyno optimized.

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Dan
99SVT - Tropic Green
#554/2760
Stock - except minor intake, exhaust, & motor mount enhancements

Solid copper head gaskets is what I am getting on my NEW 2.5.
I blew a rod, head gasket, and oil pump testing my new programmed Superchip. By the way, Superchip sucks!!!
I guess you guy were right about the 3.0l install for my 95 SE.
My mechanic didnt get into specifics why it wouldn't work, but he told me he had talked to a Ford engineer, so no 3.0L install.

FYI the piper cams for the Mondeo 2.0L are 273i/272e degree ones. These are considered only fast road. They do do some Hotter ones. The Zetec here is not variable valve (at least not on the Mk1 Mondeo's <95)

They do take a little form the bottom end but add a huge dollup after 4200 and right up to 7000.

Shame that in the UK we have the cams but cant get the header pipes. but from my testing the stock headers on the Zetec 2 are not that bad.


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Mad Mole
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Someone should call Eric @ BAT and see what's going on with their high performance PCM.

My custom exhaust + UR U/D pulley + KKM + chip = 185 HP @ wheels

Zach

i dynoed at 176hp stock... so i'm pretty sure it wouldn't be that hard to get up to 200hp at the wheels. i put a K&N in recently and can notice a difference all the way through the revs. with headers, y pipe, exhaust, ud pulleys and a custom chip i should see 200hp easy. however i'm selling the car so i'll never know. anyway, mine can't be the only svt making that much power, so i'm sure you'll see someone putting down those figures with simple bolt ons at some point.

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99 SVT #2336
Silver Frost/Midnight Blue.
Leda Coilovers.
K&N Drop-In Air Filter.
Quaife ATB Differential.
B&M Short Shifter.
PIAA Superwhite 9005 + 9006.
Dyno Proven: 176hp/162lbft.