WOW. I have 2 old mtx3000 series 12 inch subs that i bought off this guy for 5 bucks a peice, and they boom just as good as any i have heard for being so old. a while ago i got the urge to paint them with touchup paint from when someone decided to make a left turn into my car. so i painted the mtx logo and the base surrounding them and they actually look pretty good for something that only took ten minutes:) only when you get up close can u see the flaws. just had to share what i did on my friday night! :rolleyes: