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Can someone tell me what gross injustice just occurred where the automatic transmissions outstrip sticks? Used to be, when you HAD the choice of stick or auto, the stick always had either one more forward gear--if not two--or the same number as the auto. Now, it seem the automakers are souring the milk with MTXs by not offering the most modern gearboxes to us the consumers while touting the latest and greatest in ATXs. Yes, I KNOW autos are far more popular. However... when the lots are glutted with them, and no manuals are represented, people forget they have a choice. So they nod their heads, buy what's there, and demographics state that autos outsell sticks, so automakers offer fewer sticks. It's a Catch-22.
BTW: 6-speeds ARE available for the Duratec 25 and 30. Guess what motivates the Noble M12? A Duratec 30 and Getrag 6-speed.
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yeah, you have something there, it doesnt make sense, but if you think about it, that leaves a windows for the fusion SVT (if it is going to be made) I bet they will put a 6 speed manual in there, I would expect a Getrag.
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Umm you can get it in a 5 speed manual......... with the inline 4  . Maybe there setting it up so they can plop the mazdaspeed6 motor in there. You can bet that motor will be in at least one other car, fusion, focus etc...
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Autos rob more power than the MTX, so maybe they're trying to raise the performance level of the ATX by tightening the ratios in the auto gearbox??
Must be that jumbly-wumbly thing happening again.
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Originally posted by livinsvt:
Umm you can get it in a 5 speed manual.........
thanks for pointing that out. the thread title was far too confusing for me. 
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Is the Fusion ATX not a CVT or based on a CVT ? If it is there's your reason right there. One of the Skylines in Japan I believe has a 8spd auto atx.
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Originally posted by MxRacerCam:
Originally posted by livinsvt:
Umm you can get it in a 5 speed manual.........
thanks for pointing that out. the thread title was far too confusing for me.
Only the 4-cyl. though. No manual option with the V6...yet.
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Autos are overtaking manuals, soon no car will come with one, expect maybe sport's_car's. Technology is enhancing them to the point that manuals will only be converaation pieces.
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Originally posted by 975Altima:
Autos are overtaking manuals, soon no car will come with one, expect maybe sport's_car's. Technology is enhancing them to the point that manuals will only be converaation pieces.
I highly doubt the extinction of the 5-speed...as long as their are sports cars around (which will always be the case) and people wishing to feel like their driving one (which will always be the case) there will aslways be a market for sticks.
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Originally posted by GreenHornet:
Originally posted by livinsvt:
Umm you can get it in a 5 speed manual.........
Only the 4-cyl. though. No manual option with the V6...yet.
Originally posted by livinsvt:
Umm you can get it in a 5 speed manual......... with the inline 4 .
Inline four would mean 4-cyl 
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