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I was refered to buy the CSX570 Crystal Mobilesound 5 X 7 INCH Speakers from a fellow Ceg'r for a very good drop is set of speakers. Well since my b-day is aproaching in a few weeks I am about to order these but I have a couple questions first: 1)this brand seems to be a very good brand. Can anyone vouch for their performance. 2) The speakers Frequency Response is 60Hz - 20KHz. The Alpine head unit I plan on purchasing is 5-20khz. Does this mean I will be missing out on some of the sound that the speakers can duplicate? 3)These speakers are rated at 100 Watts peak power handling (couldn't find the RMS anywhere). The Alpine Im looking at puts out 26or27 RMS 60peak...is this enough to power these and sound good or will I need an amp. 4)lastly, is Audio-n-More a legit and reputable company? Anyone done business w/ them in the past? Thanks Alot P.S. you can check out the speakers here http://www.audio-n-more.com/crystall_mobilesound/crystal_mobile_sound_speakers.shtml
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I don't know dude, I would go with components. I had some MB Quart reference 5x7's for awhile... they were alright. Then I installed some 6.5" components from PG and holy crap... they sounded elite. But back to your question... I very highly doubt any 5x7 speaker is going to produce a 5hz tone well. Actually, I can tell you flat out, they won't. I think 20hz is fine for a low end, I have the eq on my amp cutting off stuff that low to my front speakers. All that low stuff is make them bottom out for me. I'd get a nice sub to fill in the bottom end if you are really worried about those low frequencies. Also, I think that headunit will be fine for powering speakers. I ran those quarts off my eclipse-5441 for a bit and they sounded okay. An amp would help though, there was a huge difference once I added an old school orion cobalt amp. Good luck! 
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I ordered a pair of a/d/s/ 308rs woofers from them back in I think it was 2001. I ordered the 308rs.2 sub but got the 308rs. Same sub but older model (black cone instead of natural aluminum). They would not swap out the subs for me, which upset me. Either way I really did get what I paid for.
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Originally posted by LancasterSVT:
I don't know dude, I would go with components. I had some MB Quart reference 5x7's for awhile... they were alright. Then I installed some 6.5" components from PG and holy crap... they sounded elite.
well actually these speakers are supposedly component speakers or component coaxial but rigged up for 5X7 instalation. Do they mean you get the sound of a component from a coaxial setup? in the site below it lists them as compnent coaxials as well.
http://www.audio-n-more.com/crystall_mobilesound/crystal_mobile_sound_speakers.shtml
The reason I don't want to go the component route is b/c i dont want to have to cut my doors apart or mod it to work. It would probably only need to fab a plate which will hold the component but then you have to mount the tweet and i dont really want to drill any holes in the interior or have some ghetto setup where they just hang somewhere. I kind of just want the drop in so it stays stock you know?
Anyone else have more imput or have any info on this matter or have done business w/ this store in the past?
Thanks Tempe for your reply. I guess they gave you what you asked for but it sucked they didnt give you the new and current model. maybe you had to ask for it or maybe it was them trying to save a buck or too, not sure.
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Originally posted by mygameisplatnum:
The reason I don't want to go the component route is b/c i dont want to have to cut my doors apart or mod it to work. It would probably only need to fab a plate which will hold the component but then you have to mount the tweet and i dont really want to drill any holes in the interior or have some ghetto setup where they just hang somewhere. I kind of just want the drop in so it stays stock you know?
All I did was use a longer screw to mount the tweeter on the same screw that holds the door peice in place. I kept the factory screws so that if I decide to take the out in the future, it will be easy =)
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Originally posted by mygameisplatnum:
I was refered to buy the CSX570 Crystal Mobilesound 5 X 7 INCH Speakers from a fellow Ceg'r for a very good drop is set of speakers. Well since my b-day is aproaching in a few weeks I am about to order these but I have a couple questions first:
1)this brand seems to be a very good brand. Can anyone vouch for their performance.
2) The speakers Frequency Response is 60Hz - 20KHz. The Alpine head unit I plan on purchasing is 5-20khz. Does this mean I will be missing out on some of the sound that the speakers can duplicate?
3)These speakers are rated at 100 Watts peak power handling (couldn't find the RMS anywhere). The Alpine Im looking at puts out 26or27 RMS 60peak...is this enough to power these and sound good or will I need an amp.
4)lastly, is Audio-n-More a legit and reputable company? Anyone done business w/ them in the past?
Thanks Alot
P.S. you can check out the speakers here
http://www.audio-n-more.com/crystall_mobilesound/crystal_mobile_sound_speakers.shtml
(1) You can find some 1st hand accounts of Crystal's in the archive (IIRC, all were very positive). If I were going to do a simple drop-in 5x7/6x8, they'd be my first choice. I'm not saying they're the best speaker available, but their performance/$ ratio is very high.
(2) Human hearing is from 20-20,000Hz. Smaller speakers are physically incapable of producing deep bass (low frequencies) at high volumes. You'll need a subwoofer to cover the entire frequency range.
(3) It's enough to power them. A moderate amp with 50+ or RMS power would make for a nice upgrade down the road.
(4) Can't help you there.
For your future plans (after getting the Crystals), I'd consider purchasing a 4ch amp - run the Crystals off the front channels and bridge the rears to a simple rear deck sub. With a relatively small investment, you'll have a very nice sounding system.
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Originally posted by cthomp21:
For your future plans (after getting the Crystals), I'd consider purchasing a 4ch amp - run the Crystals off the front channels and bridge the rears to a simple rear deck sub. With a relatively small investment, you'll have a very nice sounding system.
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Thanks C, well Ive got 5 JL-W6's 12's sitting around in my garrage that Ive had for a while. 3 of them are for my 89 Stang GT 5.0...so I have two left over. I could just throw 1 in the SVT for some nice bass but nothing too loud. I also have a Pioneer amp sitting around that I could use to run that 1 JL
2 question though:
1) your saying run all 4 crystals off the front 2 channels of the amp then bridging the back 2 channels to power the sub. What kind of amp and size would pull this off? Any suggestions?
2)Know of any other place (reputable) that sells the Crystals other than the place i mentioned above?
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Originally posted by mygameisplatnum:
Originally posted by cthomp21:
For your future plans (after getting the Crystals), I'd consider purchasing a 4ch amp - run the Crystals off the front channels and bridge the rears to a simple rear deck sub. With a relatively small investment, you'll have a very nice sounding system.
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Thanks C, well Ive got 5 JL-W6's 12's sitting around in my garrage that Ive had for a while. 3 of them are for my 89 Stang GT 5.0...so I have two left over. I could just throw 1 in the SVT for some nice bass but nothing too loud. I also have a Pioneer amp sitting around that I could use to run that 1 JL
2 question though:
1) your saying run all 4 crystals off the front 2 channels of the amp then bridging the back 2 channels to power the sub. What kind of amp and size would pull this off? Any suggestions?
2)Know of any other place (reputable) that sells the Crystals other than the place i mentioned above?
Thanks
Don't even bother replacing your rear speakers. It's a useless exercise. Put that $$$ towards amping the front speakers. It'll be a much bigger payout. You might want to deaden the doors with some "high temp mastic" from www.mcmaster.com to reduce road noise and help the midbass response.
Just use the head unit to run the rear (stockers). Mine are turned off except for the rare occasion of rear seat passengers.
www.mmxpress.com has got the Crystal CSx-570's for $81. I've purchased a couple things from them in the past and have had good experiences.
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Nice info C, ...Im really beginning to consider what you said about just running aftermarket fronts and leave the stock back speakers. However, IF i decided to go the component route what would you suggest as really good components at a good price like the Crystal 5X7's are?
Should I stay w/ the Crystal brand? What size works best in the doors? The Crystal cSc model seems to be a good quality component. Any takes on it?
I think I want to stay w/ the silk dome tweet and 2-way set up(remember hearing anything over 2-way is a wasite) also a set that comes w/ a crossover is a must.
If i did go this route Im sure I would definatly need to run an amp to the componenets for them to sound good since they for the most part require and can handle more wattage.
Any tips or suggestions are welcome
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