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I am still new here, but i just wanted to throw this one out. Does anyone use Wilwood brake systems? (four or six piston caliper kit) I have heard they are fantastic. Anyone with them care to discribe what this is like to own/use? Any info would be great.

I am speaking directly of the kits supplied by www.tceperformanceproducts.com/ . I have been drooling over them for too long, the 6-piston looks insane. even if its over-kill, i want to know how those bad boys hold up!

Thanks-

I'm sure Todd will post up and give you more information.

What would you like to know?

Guess I'm a tainted opinion huh?
There are many satisfied customers out there to date.

Keep in mind that as the car has aged and wheels have opened up a bit with the fit of aftermarket parts, the options for this kit continue to expand. There have been a couple of 1.10 kit produced now in addition to the .81 kits. The need for more 'BBK friendly' wheels has been an issue for a long time. The past year or so the fit of the newer 'narrow body six' has offered customers options they did not have prior.

To give you the best product for your needs I'd need to get with you on wheel clearance. The fit of 1/2" or more wheel spacers for a brake kit is not my first choice. While I've dealt with this on the SHO for years it's hard on bearings and requires much longer studs as well.

Let me know what you'd like and maybe I'll look at some sort of price match to other kits being offered at this time. Or at least offer you the best deal possible.

I had always planned, Todd, to fit the Focus svt rims on, i wonder if i need spacers? I believe the narrow-6 ( i forget what they call it now) was recommended to me. I dont bring them on the track, but I woudl like to, plus LA driving I use alot of brake power, especially from the IDIOTS on the 101. I would love the system, if its really worth it and i dont need to drill or mess up any configuration. Mind you i am a regular putz when it gomes to your technical knowlege, so i must admit i am still in the dark. thanks for the info, I really think this is what i will do regardless of trouble, except for the expansion, which sounds detramental...

thanks alot

FSVT wheels? Forget it. You need some better wheels than those for brakes.

From experience; the FSVT wheel will clear ONLY the BNDL or CNDL caliper (a sorta Dynalite with different mounts plus thicker pads) and only on a .81 rotor. AND this took a small spacer to work at that with 13" rotors.

The one trick is to 'reverse mount' the hat and rotor to gain clearance for brakes with regard to moving the rotor centerline inboard. I refuse to do this on front kits as it hinders air fliow to the inner portion of the hat/rotor where it needs to be able to draw cooling air from. The added benefit of directional vaned rotors helps but still puling dead air from around the hat does not work well.

The BSL6n is a fine part but is intended for 1.10 rotors too. It can be fit to .81 rotors offering the most narrow of fit applications for a six pot caliper by way of using 'full size' pads (.800 vs .620) in the narrow caliper window thus shimming the pad.

In the long run you'll want/need some far more friendly wheels for these types of full size parts.

perfect information, todd, i sooo greatly apriciate it. you obviously know a whole heck of alot more then i do!

ok, so can the focus wheels, it obviously is the first thing i should tackle. i liked them for the look, not because of that, they are cheap! i was also looking at oz, for the look, as well as un-sprung weight. any further advice?

feels like i am getting a lesson in this stuff, my dad says its so expensive, plus wheels and stuff. i am still very interested

If you're really serious shoot me an email and I'll hook you up with josh at Discount Tire Direct. He and I work from the clearance numbers I can send him. I'm a dealer of sorts but don't really sell wheels.

toddandchris1@cox.net

TSW
5Ziggen
SSR comps
ATS

A couple of 'brake friendly' wheel builders.

* On the other hand unless you plan on a lot of open track use the need for 1.10 rotors or more is minimal. Street/srip users get by just fine on the narrow version thus offering more wheel options.

Todd

I know it's not adding anything to this post but I just want to say thanks for always jumping in and doing a great job answering these brake technical questions.

Straight, to the point, and IMO very unbiased considering.

Todd, a quick question for you as I'll be looking into you setup mid season next year once my current pads/rotors are shot.

What are the chances of packaging a 13"x1.1" rotor behind a 17" OZ Superleggera (42mm offset) without the use of spacers?

Thanks

Wheel brand and offset are only part of the picture. Spoke design is where the issues are.

1.10 rotor with FSL caliper require 35mm clearance
1.10 rotor with BSL6 caliper require 39mm clearance
1.10 rotor with BSL6n caliper require 29mm clearance

.81 rotor with FSL; 27mm
.81 rotor with BSL6; 33mm
.81 rotor with BSL6n; 23mm (aprox)


Pull wheel, flip over, place flat edge on hub section, measure down from flat edge to back side of spoke. X-Y coordiantes of sorts. This is where the caliper body sits. Do this from a begining radius of 4' to an outside radius of 6" from center bore. (i.e. about half the rotor diameter)