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I wonder how much Pro War in Iraq [censored] would you be spouting if you had AK and morter rounds flying over your head. I am really curious. I see idiots like Sean Hannity and other talking heads(many on this board) spout all this nonsense BUT they are not over there fighting NOR are thier kids. If you believe so much in the cause then sign up.
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No one is PRO-WAR! We are pro removal on Saddamm and instituting a Democracy. Pro-war is like saying anyone against it is against the troops.
Everyone there now chose to join the armed services, it's their duty. If my country needed me I would go. Not happily but as my duty.
This is an assinine post.
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Did HitManinMI steal your password Antonio?
Money doesn't always bring happiness. People with ten million dollars are no happier than people with nine million dollars ~ Hobart Brown
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Originally posted by Andy W.:
No one is PRO-WAR! We are pro removal on Saddamm and instituting a Democracy. Pro-war is like saying anyone against it is against the troops.
Everyone there now chose to join the armed services, it's their duty. If my country needed me I would go. Not happily but as my duty.
This is an assinine post.
-Andy
I disagree. It is all about putting your money where your mouth is. It is quite easy to sit back in your comfy chair and spew all this crap about this is right, blah, blah, etc.
I see why Charlie Randell proposed that draft bill.
Fmr12B, no. I am just get quite tired of alot people talking like they really know whats going on. YES, I had a brief stint in the military, but I really don't like talking about it. Let's just say *my* body was not able to withstand basic training.
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You honestly believe that I or any other American likes to see our countryman die. You are sick. Freedom is not free, have you ever visited the monuments in the city you live dedicated to the men and woman who serve our country. Go there, see the faces and the names, and tell me you think anyone wanted them to die. You were/are employed by a company that made millions off the gluttony of the country, aka the porn industry, and I'm the hypocrit.
A bill setting up the draft in times of war is common practice.
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Been there done that.
Although, I will agree, alot of the higher ups are more for it, yet most of them have not experienced nor do they most likely have any immediate family over there as well.
Does that mean its wrong?
There are NUMEROUS Service members who gladly go back over there.
My best friend who did 3 years active Army joined the reserves has done more in the past 4 years of being out of the Active Guard, to include Bosnia, then off to Iraq (actually in the assault into Iraq), and then volunteered to go to Afghanistan after being back less than a year from Iraq.
IMO, the people who are in the military and [censored] and complain about the on going operations MOST LIKELY were the ones who joined the military for college money, which was their first mistaken.
I [censored] and complained about being recalled last year, but I knew when I signed the dotted line that it was a possibility. And, as a man of my word, I went when I was called upon, unlike the thousands out there that have not.
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Originally posted by Andy W.:
You honestly believe that I or any other American likes to see our countryman die. You are sick. Freedom is not free, have you ever visited the monuments in the city you live dedicated to the men and woman who serve our country. Go there, see the faces and the names, and tell me you think anyone wanted them to die. You were/are employed by a company that made millions off the gluntonny of the country, aka the porn industry.
A bill setting up the draft in times of war is common practice.
-Andy
What does that half to do with anything? I tried to serve my country. If I did not [censored] myself up I would most likely be in IRAQ doing something inregards to "this war on terror." I don't even know the point about your comment about my job. If that was attempt at a personal attack you cleary failed and plus YOU know me better then that. I am a man that stands behind what I say, so please don't give me that [censored].
RTStabler51, thank you for understanding what I meant with my post.
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Originally posted by Antonio:
I wonder how much Pro War in Iraq [censored] would you be spouting if you had AK and morter rounds flying over your head. I am really curious. I see idiots like Sean Hannity and other talking heads(many on this board) spout all this nonsense BUT they are not over there fighting NOR are thier kids. If you believe so much in the cause then sign up.
I support agriculture, but I don't want to be a farmer.
People can support our military action but not want to be soldiers. The idea of war scares the hell out of most people. This is more reason to respect and honor everyone who has given their life for our country, because most people do not or can not do it.
This is another lame attempt to build an argument against war. This is all built on the premise that individuals are sent to die on the field of battle, without giving respect to the cause. God bless them, our soldiers are our means for attaining peace and freedom. Those on the left think of war as human sacrifice. Others think of war primarily as a means for peace and freedom, and honor and respect the sacrifices made.
Hannity, and the other 'idiots', think of war as a means for peace and freedom. Would he go to Iraq? Who knows. Would he send his kids to Iraq? Well, I think that would be illegal. For those who will not volunteer for service, maybe war scares them too much. What you're trying to say here is that the cause we are fighting for is not noble enough for all people to go and get enlisted. That is your opinion. But your point was not made.
Would I go? I was interested in enlisting back in 1998 but got the immediate DQ because of asthma. But I won't lie, the thought of war scares the hell out of me. That being said, I still think the battles we are engaged in today are worth dying for.
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You group anyone for the liberation of Iraq as Pro-war, why can't I group anyone against the liberation as against our troops. You have a double standard Ant! If it agrees with you don't equate negativity, but if it's against you it's all negative. I believe that neither is true, you can be against the war and support our troops, and you can be for this war and not a pro-war merc.
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My point about your job is with out wars to free us from opression, you would not be able to make a paycheck off a company like the one you work for. We are only giving the Iraq's what we have for ourselves. We were levied high taxes by the British, Saddam was killing anyone who wasn't a loyalist. You'd be killed for a post or statement like this. Can't you atleast value the concept.
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for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety
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