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#1093129 11/03/04 05:40 AM
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Originally posted by JonnySVT:
The Honda motors are very efficient, boasting abnormally high specific output. So modding will not go over too well when it comes to bolt ons.




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the only vtec honda i drive from time to time is my friends 99 civic SI. it has headers a cai no cat tanabe exhaust and he says it has a skunk works intake manifodl bu tit looks stock to me. well the car has no torque at all. my other friend that lives down the street from him has a 92 accord with the sohc 2.2 non vtec with headers, full exhaust, and codl air intake and the accord is a little bit quicker. the funny thing was when the accord beat the SI my friend with the SI got so mad that he went out and baught a zex 80 shot dry kit. i raced the accord a few times and if i dont spin the wheels through first i leave him off the line and he wont catch me. one of my friends that i havent raced yet. it seems liek without torque you dont realy feel liek your going fast. from what i remember those civic SI's come with 160 hp but only 111 ft lbs of torque.


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the k20 that is in the Civic Si gained not even 5whp from the CAI in that mag test that I was talking about.

20hp
MY ASS

maybe a turbo car or a restrictive v8.


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all i have to say is turbo....without a turbo on a B-series motor you are not going anywhere. but with one exception and that is a B20 with a vtec head. i have a freind with a 92 hatch with a B20vtec and he could run 9.1's in the 1/8 all night and that is at a crappy track with no traction in 1st and 2nd. and he also cant drive very good. i have to say i am glad i got my cougar and i have never regreted it but my next car will be a honda and it will have a turbo.....cause no matter how you look at it THEY JUST PRODUCE. another friend of mine has a 99SI with a B18C1 with a turbo boosting 14psi walked of from a '03 Cobra, and i saw that with my own eyes.


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I know 3 or 4 civics back home that run lower than 9s in the 1/8 mile with NA hondas.


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Originally posted by Steeltwo:
the k20 that is in the Civic Si gained not even 5whp from the CAI in that mag test that I was talking about.

20hp
MY ASS

maybe a turbo car or a restrictive v8.




k20?

Civic Si = B16a2


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Originally posted by 99cougar:
....without a turbo on a B-series motor you are not going anywhere.




what about a B16 or B18C...those are both motors that will put you in the 13s NA in a civic.


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Originally posted by ZetecNinja:
Originally posted by Steeltwo:
the k20 that is in the Civic Si gained not even 5whp from the CAI in that mag test that I was talking about.

20hp
MY ASS

maybe a turbo car or a restrictive v8.




k20?

Civic Si = B16a2



New Si=k20.


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Originally posted by ZetecNinja:
Originally posted by 99cougar:
....without a turbo on a B-series motor you are not going anywhere.




what about a B16 or B18C...those are both motors that will put you in the 13s NA in a civic.




show me one that is in the 13's all motor and has nothing but bolt-ons. that means no internals no headwork strictly bolt-ons....with the possible exception of a B20 in a hatch.


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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
I know 3 or 4 civics back home that run lower than 9s in the 1/8 mile with NA hondas.




on tires that are about bald and are only 185mm wide? and like i said he cant drive.


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