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#1091464 10/31/04 03:45 AM
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Originally posted by Fat Mike:
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However, because researchers have found precancerous changes in cells taken from the lungs of heavy marijuana smokers, the possibility of lung cancer from marijuana cannot be ruled out.







Kremit - read that again. I don't think anybody's claiming it doesn't damage tissue.

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Unlike heavy tobacco smokers, heavy marijuana smokers exhibit no obstruction of the lung's small airway. That indicates that people will not develop emphysema from smoking marijuana.







I think that's a pretty bogus assumption. Emphysema isn't caused by a physical obstruction (although it's technically called a chronic obstruction pulmonary disease), it's caused by reduced elasticity (and hence recoil) of the lung tissue. Smoke (and sometimes genetic disorders) damage the tissue so it can't recoil and expell the used air.

Ever seen somebody with a barrel chest who's exhaling short and shallow breaths? That's emphysema - their lungs can't expel the air that it's used cause the tissue doesn't recoil anymore.


Originally posted by Fat Mike:

If you have any questions about different drugs, effects, addiction, etc., just ask me. I'm quite the expert on it.




Rock on, Mike. I think there's no better person to talk to about drugs than some who's frank, truthful, and isn't out to prove something.


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Originally posted by Derk2000:
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However, because researchers have found precancerous changes in cells taken from the lungs of heavy marijuana smokers, the possibility of lung cancer from marijuana cannot be ruled out.







Kremit - read that again. I don't think anybody's claiming it doesn't damage tissue.




I know that. But then how is mike gonna argue that it isn't dangerous (again, not as much as cigarettes cuz they smoke more)blah blah blah. I never said it was some super killer, so what is the arguement here?


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Originally posted by TexasRealtor:
Originally posted by jerseycat10:
Your body regenerates itself approximately every 7 years. If you stop smoking for 7 years, your lungs will be as good as new.




That only works on Vulcan.




I believe you are reffering to ponfar...the Vulcan sexual cycle. God im a loser...


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Heavy Marijuana Use Doesn't Damage Brain
http://my.webmd.com/content/article/70/80972.htm



http://www.askmen.com/sports/health/20_mens_health.html

Brain Damage
Marijuana is psychoactive because it stimulates certain brain receptors, but it does not produce toxins that kill them (like alcohol), and it does not wear them out as other drugs may. There is no evidence that marijuana use causes brain damage. Studies performed on actual human populations will confirm these results, even for chronic marijuana users (up to 18 joints per day) after many years of use.




Though studies are unconclusive about the degree of cancer that it causes.

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And as something that ol fat mike posted a while back stated, pot doesn't kill brain cells but it does some other crap to your brain and can make u stoopid. There are all sorts of studies that say all sorts of things, only some r rite, but I kno from what i've seen that pot kan be a stoopifier.


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Pot makes them stupid because they keep smoking all the time!


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I wouldn't doubt that it does some damage, but in order to do some damage you'd have to be smoking excessively for a long period of time. Used in moderation though, pot won't really change your brain. I know people who smoked frequently starting as early as 7th grade....they all got over 1500 on their SAT's...hm...it is interesting though...i do know of some people who ended up the opposite way. maybe it depends somewhat on the person?


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We don't use most of our brains, so I'm thinking unscientifically/scientifically here,,, what if it kills different parts of different people's brains.


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#1091471 10/31/04 08:25 AM
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I used to smoke pot, of what I noticed I stopepd a few tmes for months at a time the last time being permanent
The first few weeks your breathing might seem to get worse
In a whole after about three months your breatihng should be pretty damn good again

adive if u choose 2 smoke weed still dont smoke blunts or joints try and use a pice thast has water..


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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
We don't use most of our brains, so I'm thinking unscientifically/scientifically here,,, what if it kills different parts of different people's brains.




Ok this has been brought up a number of times in this post and I would just like to varify that we do not only use 10% fof our brain if that is what you are implying. In fact we use all of our brain but not at the same time. Each activity that we do uses a different part of the brain so it is wrong to think that we do not use parts of our brain at all. Which is why if Mary J were to be killing parts of your brain, it wouldnt go unnoticed. I'm not by any means stating that it doesnt affect your brain, I am just saying that there arent "parts" of your brain you do not use.

"The highly specialized regions of the brain give some insight into the many functions that the brain is capable of doing. So the development of the brain into specific sections that have been researched to facilitate specific functions, provides evidence that these regions are active in a normal humans lifetime. The fact that the brain has a highly ordered procedure for developing, leads researchers to believe that each region of the brain is essential. In fact, researchers have found several regions to account for one function, to imply that the collaboration of several brain regions is sometimes necessary for normal functioning. The 1012 neurons in the brain have not all been researched for activity or not, but researchers have found no evidence for unused abilities or large, unused regions of the brain."



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NO!

We use parts of our brain. True. We don't use every part of every part of our brain? Get it?


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