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October 20, 2004


SVT Lightning shelved
Ford has pulled the plug on the next-generation F-150 Lightning SVT pickup truck, instead putting all SVT's eggs into one basket: The SVT Cobra Mustang, due for 2006. "It's a business decision," said Alan Hall, SVT spokesman.






Looks like Dodge stays King of the Hill for 2004, 2005, & 2006.

2005 SRT10 gets the crew-cab variant and an Automatic tranny standard as well as the stnadard cab 6spd combo.





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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! WHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy that thing was SO bitchin!


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whoopity-doo!

i'd rather see them ditch the lightning for now and hit a home run with the new cobra, than keep it and hit two singles.


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Originally posted by MxRacerCam:
whoopity-doo!

i'd rather see them ditch the lightning for now and hit a home run with the new cobra, than keep it and hit two singles.




The Lighting was a home run. Frankly Im losing faith in SVT, this is a really really stupid decision. Hey lets cancel both the SVT Focus and the new SVT Lightning , GO COBRA. That way dodge can have the best fast truck, and have little to no competition for the SRT-4; great [censored] decision. This really does piss me off.

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Originally posted by DimitriPopov:

The Lighting was a home run. Frankly Im losing faith in SVT, this is a really really stupid decision. Hey lets cancel both the SVT Focus and the new SVT Lightning , GO COBRA. That way dodge can have the best fast truck, and have little to no competition for the SRT-4; great [censored] decision. This really does piss me off.




it's all about $$$... it's not like dodge is selling srt-10's hand over fist....


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yeah but Lightings WERE selling like crazy. I see about 200 of them everyday. And the proposed next model was insane! I KNEW it was too good to be true.

I agree with Dimitri 100%


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Originally posted by MxRacerCam:
it's all about $$$... it's not like dodge is selling srt-10's hand over fist....



True. Unfortunately I don't think Ford cares that the SRT-10 is the fastest truck. They only care about the economics of it all. Which is what they should do.

But if SVT had their stuff together I think they could be a big bonus to Ford. Oh well.

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bah, who decides what is good economics? Lightnings are very popular vehicles...more popular possibly than cobra's. I see alot more of them than anything else. And Ford really was on top with the whole sport truck thing. Stupid. Just stupid.


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Originally posted by Davo:
Originally posted by MxRacerCam:
it's all about $$$... it's not like dodge is selling srt-10's hand over fist....





But if SVT had their stuff together I think they could be a big bonus to Ford. Oh well.





Margins on vehicles are pretty low, and when you consider SVT sells around 20,000 units a year, you realize SVT will never impact Fords bottom line with SVT sales. I assume SVT loses money every year but I'm not privy to that divisions P&L.

What SVT is there to do is create HALO vehicles which bring in pimply 16 yr olds who leave with a base Focus or V6 'stang. This creates brand loyalty at a young age and attracts a lot of free publicity from magazines.

SVT is nothing more than a marketing strategy to Ford.








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Exactly.

SVT, SRT, Mazdaspeed, etc they're all what marketers term "Loss Leaders" or at the very least extremely low-margined vehicles. They get your name out there, they create brand loyalty, and they get people into your stores (dealerships) to buy lesser-priced items that you don't lose money on.

So when creating them it comes down to what vehicle is going to create the most buzz more than anything.


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