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http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/displayPage.action?pageParameter=mazdaSpeed6Okay guys there it is! I lust for one of these.  274 tq and 280 hp  All squeezed out of the 2.3 I-4. I read they benchmarked the BMW 3series. Twin spoolers and that kind of output is reminding me of the days of the Supras, 3000GTs, & 300zx. Only this is out of a bada$$ sedan. Ford should take some notes for the CSVT follow-up (SVT-FUSION/500?). Whatever this car is sweet.
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hello and welcome to 3 MONTHS AGO!
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Quaife, lightened SVT Flywheel, SPEC stage II clutch, removed resonator, k&n drop in - various other goodies too.
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All squeezed out of the 2.3 I-4. I read they benchmarked the BMW 3series. Twin spoolers and that kind of output is reminding me of the days of the Supras, 3000GTs, & 300zx. Only this is out of a bada$$ sedan.
It's funny how many people achieve better numbers with a single turbo and damn near the same displacement....aka EVO...STi....SVT Contour w/ADC.....  (which are all Sedans...)
Not to mention....basically ANY Honda motor.
This really isn't the best thing since sliced bread....
It's a nice car nonetheless and will probably be within the price range of an EVO RS (which I'd rather have), but it would still feel a little funny to be driving that big of a car with a powerful I4 in there. Just seems a little off to me. I wonderwhy they didn't go with the 3.0 for the project, besides maybe more costs.
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First off, it's a SINGLE turbo-charged, direct-injection 2.3L 4 Cylinder. That article in Autoweek was wrong, wrong, wrong. Second, the 4cyl was used for cost reasons as this is the "world" performance version of the 6. I believe it's called the Mazda 6 MPS in Europe and Japan. The 3L V6 is NA only. Much more costs involved with engineering/certifying 2 performance engines than just 1. Third, this car will be the likely replacement for my aging CSVT. 
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Originally posted by JonnySVT:
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All squeezed out of the 2.3 I-4. I read they benchmarked the BMW 3series. Twin spoolers and that kind of output is reminding me of the days of the Supras, 3000GTs, & 300zx. Only this is out of a bada$$ sedan.
It's funny how many people achieve better numbers with a single turbo and damn near the same displacement....aka EVO...STi....SVT Contour w/ADC..... (which are all Sedans...)
Well I guess it is single turbo. But anyways number of turbos doesn't not have anything to do with amount of horsepower. And it's producing a fine amount of power for it's size.
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Originally posted by JonnySVT:
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All squeezed out of the 2.3 I-4. I read they benchmarked the BMW 3series. Twin spoolers and that kind of output is reminding me of the days of the Supras, 3000GTs, & 300zx. Only this is out of a bada$$ sedan.
It's funny how many people achieve better numbers with a single turbo and damn near the same displacement....aka EVO...STi....SVT Contour w/ADC..... (which are all Sedans...)
Well I guess it is single turbo. But anyways number of turbos doesn't not have anything to do with amount of horsepower. And it's producing a fine amount of power for it's size.
I hope that wasn't directed at me, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. 
It is making adequate power for it's size, I was merely saying it just seems a little funny to open the hood of a car of it's size and see a 2.3 liter I4. nothing wrong with it, just seems a little funny to me.
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Huh? It was directed at u. U acted like 270hp+ outta 2.3L isn't good. A srt4 makes less outta a 2.4L What's funny about seeing a 4cyl in a car nowadays? They're in every car just about and obviously in a lot of the performance cars being made. S2000, evo, wrx, srt4, miata, msp, ms 6, redline ion , cobalt ss,etc.
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Huh? It was directed at u. U acted like 270hp+ outta 2.3L isn't good. A srt4 makes less outta a 2.4L What's funny about seeing a 4cyl in a car nowadays? They're in every car just about and obviously in a lot of the performance cars being made. S2000, evo, wrx, srt4, miata, msp, ms 6, redline ion , cobalt ss,etc.
You need to take a breather and have a civilized conversation without getting an attitude nowadays. Nowhere did I say that 270hp out of 2.3 liters was not good. I merely threw out comparisons of SINGLE turbo equipped cars in the same displacement range making ~ the same power. This was BEFORE it was said that it is actually a single turbo. DESPITE the fact that I didn't obviously put together the I4/twin turbo oddity (and it seems no one else did until it was pointed out). My point about the I4 being in a bigger car is just that: my opinion, read my opinion , that a 2.3 I4 in a bigger car, read bigger car , seems a little strange to me, read to me. Nothing wrong with it. Please put your eyeballs back in your head and put away your can of whoop ass, there is no reason to start a pissing match now.
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WTF? I'm not worked up at all. I see you are, and I don't understand why. I am having a civilized conversation. I guess you consider disagreement to equal attitude.  Again, number of turbos does not have much/anything to do with amount of power made. Bigger car? You usually need to compare it directly to something to say it's bigger. Bigger than an evo? Probably by a little bit, but it has around the same power and it less of a sports car than an evo. Evos have been made for years now and probably running higher boost pressure than the ms 6. Seeing a 4cyl in just about any vehicle nowadays should not be a surprise. You need to chill out. Just because I disagree with you doesn't mean you have to get angry. I'm not personally attacking you, just disagreeing, I don't see why you are taking it as an attack.
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I truely despise arguing like this over the internet. Especially when the 's are brought out. So we have decided we both don't have attitudes, while getting them trying to explain we don't have one. Way to go team.  I'd say we're losing. About the "bigger car" statement, I can retract that if you wish, I was merely making a statement based on my view of engine size/car relationship, which is formed due to the norms, bigger cars tend to have bigger motors. Nothing affecting output usually, just a direct size relationship. I will go on an extreme and say imagine an Escalade with a a 2.0 I4 turbo pushing 350hp. Then imagine a CRX with a 5.7 V8 pushing 150hp. That's all I'm saying.Imagine opening the hood of the Mazda 6 and seeing an engine bay that can accomodate a V6, but in the center is a lonely 2.3 I4. I would just imagine it to look funny. Sort of like the 250cid I6 that used to be in my Nova. It just looks funny. I swear there was room to put another I6 next to it in that engine bay. Are we on the same page now? The only reason I made the comment was that you are known to be a very opinionated and stubborn person who tends to pick fights. I think even you can agree with that one as IIRC you even mentioned something to that degree in a post. Yet, strangely, as much as I despise your way of thinking and what not, I see a hint of hope there and wish you'd lighten up for the most part.
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