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#1059958 09/24/04 12:40 AM
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Originally posted by t - roy:
Mahatma Gandhi knew the rules during his peaceful protest too.




If I would have been in charge (and had the position held by colonial Britain), Ghandi would have starved to death. Hunger strikes have no effect on me.

Anyway... I voted against the suspension, because I do not agree with the rule. However, I do not agree with the piercings either. What is he expressing? Whatever it is, the meaning is lost on me. He should consider the intended and unintended messages carefully in this semi-permanent form of expression.

I also believe he should have obeyed the rule in school or attended a different school while gaining grassroots support for the right to have piercings in school. A legal waiver waiving school liability for any harm caused by the piercings may be needed, and would be acceptable.

While a parent should not charge their 10th grade child rent, it is all to often a necessity in our world. However, one has to prove the necessity to me for me not to think something's wrong in the parenting.

That brings up parenting and the piercings. I would not allow my child to have body piercings while they lived under my roof. Parents have the right to create house rules. However, since the "roof" is partly the kids, as he is helping to pay for it, that moral authority is removed.


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First, I want to thank everyone who supported this. Second, I want to thank everyone that wasn't a jerk while posting, and remained civil. Lastly, I posted here because I've always seen our community as a place where everyone is relatively open-minded and civil. I was very mistaken. some of the people here are the most judgemental, arrogant jerks I've seen in a long time. if you fit in this category, [censored] off.


Originally posted by rickse99:
it wasn't his decision to move, his mom's counting on him to help out with rent,


uhh What kind of mother would ask there kid to help out on rent ? JACKA$$




a disabled single parent mother who can't work, jerk. he's a good son. she's making efforts to get a job, he's only living there for a year or two until she can get back on her feet.

no, he didn't move because he got made fun of, his mother moved, he lives with her, can't do much about it. military kids aren't different than any other kids.
safety? it's his choice. he gets them ripped out, his problem. he has a right to express himself. the rules of the school may exist, but they are unconstitutional.
what kind of mother let's her son get facial piercings? who cares? bad parenting? why?! what's wrong with them! you don't like them? don't look at him, no one asked you to. at least he isn't doing drugs or drinking himself stupid.
why'd they move to georgia? better schools? no, but when you graduate from one they help pay for college.
I see someone said "he doesn't have money for rent but money for a lawyer". my mom's a lawyer, she knows people, we know them personally, they're getting help with that.
Originally posted by Jeb Hoge:
Well, if the piercings make him feel better about himself...

then he must have some messed-up issues.




ever have a girlfriend with pierced ears? why? oh wait, they make her look prettier in her opinion. all females must be nutjobs, right?
many people mentioned that one day he'll have to take them out for his job. ok, when he gets a college degree and no longer has to work at McDonalds, he'll take them out. why should he have to now?
he knew the consequences, he's dealing with them. he went to the school board, a reporter APROACHED HIM. btw, this should be on nationwide news tomorrow, just FWI. it IS a big deal.

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Originally posted by platinum_drew:
Originally posted by rickse99:
OMG WTF IS WRONG WITH THIS KID ??????






wtf is wrong with you? so he has a couple piercings, big deal. he likes them, who cares? like you're perfect, jacka$$, don't post if you're just going to be a punk.






So your saying that anyone why has a different opinion than you is a punk? Welcome to real life when not everyone agrees with you. I for one voted yes on the stupid web poll even though its results are of a volutary nature and therefore not of any statistical value.







no, he's a punk because of the way he approached it. "WTF is wrong with this kid" is very different than "I disagree with this because...". I know what's coming next, "well in reality people don't all react in a civil manner, get used to it". ok, so what, I'll call them punks too.


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Originally posted by platinum_drew:
all females must be nutjobs, right?







That is correct.


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Maybe its just people are getting sick of looking at a bunch of FAT kids with their body pierced up. What an idiot. Maybe the mother should have looked at the school rules before moving her fat A$$ 700 miles.
Those two need to be put in a bus with John Kerry and pushed off a cliff.

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Originally posted by Dragonfly:
Maybe its just people are getting sick of looking at a bunch of FAT kids with their body pierced up. What an idiot. Maybe the mother should have looked at the school rules before moving her fat A$$ 700 miles.
Those two need to be put in a bus with John Kerry and pushed off a cliff.




you're an idiot.


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Originally posted by Roz 1999 SVT-C:
Safty wise i have to agree...also, as a former Manager of a retail store, its not very appealing to customers to see that, unless its a trendy store like Hot Topic or Journeys which caters to youth.....But most business do not.

Ears, im ok with, but lip and browâ?¦



  At least one thing about lip piercings�it gives you a whole new way to drool.


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boy, there sure are a bunch of right-wing-enforce-my-views-upon-you type of people in here!

instead of bashing his piercings you should be asking him wtf happened to his sideburns?

I dont think people consider me a young adult anymore, 28, married, 1.5 kids. i taught middle school and high school for a few years. believe me, this amount of piercing is BY FAR the norm out here. i can't believe the school has "banned" them. Heck, take tour of Hollywood HS and youll see freaks that'll scare the sh*t out of you. While i think these are a lame cry for attention and extremely repulsive i do not feel that they should not be allowed to wear them. If his having home depot hardware in his face distracts you so much that you can't focus on your work then come see me because i have special education assessments i can run on you to see if you have any attention deficits.

while i think he was wrong in violating the school's policy i think they are wrong in placing him in isolation throughout the day; especially if it is everyday until he pays a contractor to remove them. i know the some of inside policies of education and it is against the law to keep a student out of the classroom for specific amounts of time. if this were to carry on too long they find themselves in hot water. For the guy who knows this kid, you should contact him and tell him he should contact the ACLU. i know, i know, many of you will say they are a bunch of liberal commie bastards, and i myself am not fond of 1/2 of their pursuits BUT 1/2 of them i do appreciate. w/out them, there would be some seriously f'ed up sh*t in this country still going on.

how about this hypo (as my professors call it): what if this kid would have shown up with no piercings and tattoos on his neck and all over his arms. wouldnt that be similar? what if that was against the rules? would they keep in isolation until he had them removed? i have had plenty of students in my high school classes show up with disgusting gang tats on their necks and even on their stupid shaved heads. what can we do? nothing. theirs tons of them.

as far as this kid getting his "jewelry" ripped out, this isnt even a problem in our schools because there is a zero tolerance for fighting. students get kicked out of school for the FIRST fight. fights are pretty rare now because no one wants to get up an hour or two earlier to go to school waaay across town to another school with people they dont really know. (especially if theyre gangbangers).

i am really suprised that this is even an issue in a school anywhere in the US. these days schools are so f'ed up and allow practically anything.

youre probably thinking im just another liberal californian but im actually rather conservative. I even joined a conservative society at school. i personally loathe body piercings other than ears and tongue (i even dont like belly) but i really dont care if someone else wants to make themselves look funny. If he has trouble finding a job, and he might (definitely easier to find one without) i just say that makes less competition for my kids.

Most companies frown on this sort of thing. even colored hair. as for computer people, theyre usually looked at as creative expressive people who are desperately needed. i had a friend in a very conservative insurance company show up to work in a flannel, sweats, and unshaven beard but he was the top guy in IT so nobody cared. i worked with a girl in a conservative insurance company who died her hair that God-awful red dye color, still showing her brown hair, and people who had been working there forever said she would never get promoted looking like that, plus she had a ring in her eyebrow. thats just the way it works. there are always exceptions but in the professional business world, this is the majority.

while i think he violated the school rule and i think a one day suspension plus after-school detentions would be appropriate, i certainly dont think it was appropriate for the school to treat him as a leper and put him in quarantine. try not to think of it as some kid that was like a kid in your high school but try to think of what if your kid was being treated like this. yeah, i wouldnt let my kid wear this bs either but what if they treated your own child like this for something else, something you felt was right.

I know plenty of people who worked in HS to help their single mothers help pay the rent and put food in the mouths of their younger siblings, better than welfare right?

in cases like these, there are plenty of lawyers who love to take the case Pro Bono. look at all the free publicity. who do you think probably contacted the media about this in the first place? definitely not the school, they would prefer to keep cr*p like this under wraps as much as possible.

this reminds me of a great movie line. Pulp Fiction "Is Trudy the one with all the sh*t in her face?"..."No, that's Angela, my wife."



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Originally posted by Dragonfly:
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Originally posted by Freakshow:
Originally posted by platinum_drew:
all females must be nutjobs, right?







That is correct.




Oh is that right???


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