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Originally posted by AP News:
With little more than eight weeks remaining to Election Day, a Newsweek (Poll) survey gave the president a lead of 52-41 over Kerry, with independent Ralph Nader at 3 percent. A Time Magazine poll released a day earlier also made it an 11-point race.
Everyone expects a bounce coming out of their convention, but Kerry got no bounce out of his and 11-points is freaking huge!
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These polls are total BS. They are polling "likely" voters, does not include people who did not vote in the last election.
I think the polls are MUCH closer, as a lot of Kerry�s support is just to get Bush out.
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Originally posted by fudrucker:
These polls are total BS. They are polling "likely" voters, does not include people who did not vote in the last election.
I think the polls are MUCH closer, as a lot of Kerry�s support is just to get Bush out.
Why do I get the impression that you'd have a totally different opinion about those polls if they showed John Flip-flop Kerry in the lead? Given that the polls are from Time and Newsweek, which are not exactly known for being Conservative leaning pubs, I'd say that they're believable.
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They�re accurate based on "likely voters". Last Sunday NY saw on of the largest protests in 20 years. Crowd estimates almost a half a million people.
How can you tell me, he has an eleven-point lead? There is a HUGE movement to get him out of there.
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They�re accurate based on "likely voters". Last Sunday NY saw on of the largest protests in 20 years. Crowd estimates almost a half a million people.
It's a lot easier to get 500,000 hippies on the streets of New York at the RNC than to get 500,000 executives on the streets of Boston at the DNC.
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Originally posted by fudrucker:
They�re accurate based on "likely voters".
Right!!! People who will vote favor Bush. I guess it doesn't really matter what people who aren't going to vote think, does it?? Tell us, are you voting FOR Kerry or just against Bush? If you just want to vote against Bush, vote for Nader.....By the way, I didn't tell you Bush has an 11 point lead, Time and Newsweek did....
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Originally posted by sigma:
It's a lot easier to get 500,000 hippies on the streets of New York at the RNC than to get 500,000 executives on the streets of Boston at the DNC.
That is SO well put.
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Those surveys CAN be misleading and total BS depending on how/where they were conducted as often they contain a sample bias. Example: in 1936 researchers predicted that Alf Landon would defeat FDR based on voting polls. Roosevelt won by a landslide though. Reason: it was a telephone survey and at the time only the very wealthy had telephones so the lower class people (who were more likely to vote for FDR) were not represented in the poll.
Of course this is a very old example and I am sure that researchers take much more care to avoid sample bias today, but there is still that possiblity. Even with an unbiased sample there is usually a 3% variance in accuracy of any poll. All that said, it's probably a lot closer race than that poll indicates. Plus, majority vote doesn't elect a president so I guess we'll all have to see what happens in November. All I know is it will probably be as close as the last election.
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Originally posted by sigma:
It's a lot easier to get 500,000 hippies on the streets of New York at the RNC than to get 500,000 executives on the streets of Boston at the DNC.
there aren't 500k execs for every 500k 'hippies' though. the rich guy (200k+ a year) is vastly outnumbered by the lower classes.
i get the feeling this race is much closer than the polls suggest, even with an "11 point lead". by the time november rolls around kerry will have regained enough ground to make it unlikely for bush to win barring terror attacks, another new pre-emptive strike, or other suprises.
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Denial on part of the Dems sometimes never ceases to amaze me.
When will some of you finally admit to the fact that Kerry is in BIG trouble?
When Bush has a 20 point lead?
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