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Mother in law had the same problem in her Jeep... Told her to go check the blinker fluid... she did.

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Originally posted by jaxsvt:
Mother in law had the same problem in her Jeep... Told her to go check the blinker fluid... she did.

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Anyway, as far as I know, the flasher unit is in the timer box (ya know, the one that makes noise when you leave the key in the ignition or headlights on...), so that piece would have to be changed.

It seems you could just get an interior fuse box say out of a junkyard with the module still on it and switch it out... maybe that will help.

BTW: todras sells the service CDs for $8... send him a pm or something with the year of your car, and he can hook ya up.


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Originally posted by DaveInVA:
OK, I checked my turn signals this AM (function of the actual bulbs) and they work fine. But the flasher unit is still operating intermittently.

From the previous posts, it sounds like the wrong bulbs can make the flasher unit spaz out. However, I have had the same bulbs in there for a longggg time, operating just fine until the past couple of weeks.

Do I assume it's a bad flasher unit? If so, where is it located ? What does it cost to replace these ?

Or, should I count the bulbs as a *possible* loss and simply replace them with brand new ones, before I worry any further about the flasher unit?

BTW, I have misplaced my Contour shop book, is there any such thing online ?

Thanks in advance,
- Dave in VA




It is most likely your TURN SIGNAL SWITCH. That is what our experience has shown. The flasher unit plugs in to the turn signal switch.

As I posted before, I have never seen or heard of a flasher unit failing on our cars, but switch failure is common.


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Originally posted by Big Jim:
It is most likely your TURN SIGNAL SWITCH. That is what our experience has shown. The flasher unit plugs in to the turn signal switch.

As I posted before, I have never seen or heard of a flasher unit failing on our cars, but switch failure is common.



sorry to ressurect an old thread, but now I seem to have part time turn signals.

It started out by my just getting a buzz / vibration in the turn signal stalk when I operated the signals.

It would either buzz or work.

Now it either works flashing 2-3 times and quits or just doesn't work. Sometimes a tap on the turn signal lever gets me a couple more flashes.

Still sound like a switch? The buzz is what makes me suspect the flasher / control box.

Also, when mine aren't flashing, there is no illumination (on the dash or at the lights). Usually bulb / flasher problems get you a light that just stays on. This makes me lean towards the switch.

Everything else on the stalk works fine.



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Originally posted by Big Jim:
In both of these cases, the symptom was that the turn signals would flash at double speed and someone that was following me said that he did not see the rear turn signals operate.




I think I'm having the same problem. Just lately, when I turn right, my turn signal indicator flashes double speed, and I could see the reflection of my car in the car ahead, and the bulb was flashing double speed. I haven't confirmed that the rear turn signal isn't working, but I'd imagine it isn't.

The odd part is, it doesn't flash at double speed everytime. Maybe 75-80% of my right turns.

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I was just in this boat months ago....sigh

Okay.. check to make sure the wires from the actual turn signal stalk/switch are not corrodid and falling out. The last repair guy to work on my car replaced this turn switch behind the steering wheel.

Now when a light bulb in the brake system starts to go out the blinker will move faster because it needs this bulb to add enough resistance to blink slow. This is also a problem for many people that want to mod their tail lights with LEDS in that there is not enough resistance so they end up buying a repeater to fix this problem.

So check the light bulbs in the brakes first. Make sure the leds are not melted down flat. If so try to reshape them, stick in some metal or just buy new bulbs and be do with it. As you turn those bulbs get loose and they blink fast.

Now as for the click noise that lets you know the signal stalk is locked. It should turn off after the completed turn. Well, this would be the actual turn signal switch. It's all on one unit that you must remove and replace. I don't recall how much this costed me? Even the new turn signal switch was acting a little funky and rather than replacing that one I just wedged it with some rubber plastic to make the wheel catch and turn off as it would otherwise just keep blinking.. long story.



Now you see where I'm pointing to those brake wires? You can try and wiggle those wires around. The black thing that the wires are going into also plugs into the white plastic turn signal switch.


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Originally posted by Big Jim:
It is most likely your TURN SIGNAL SWITCH. That is what our experience has shown. The flasher unit plugs in to the turn signal switch.

As I posted before, I have never seen or heard of a flasher unit failing on our cars, but switch failure is common.



Well - now you've heard of a flasher failure .

I got in a bind and wanted the turn signals functional for a road trip I'm leaving for on Tuesday.

I went to the Ford dealer and they ordered the switch for me - said they'd have it in an hour.

I took the car apart and I immediately spotted the flasher plugged into the back of the turn signal switch assembly. Wiggling the flasher made my signals / hazards work.

I borrowed the pic above:



I went to Autozone and got a flasher. The one the computer specifies wouldn't even fit onto the socket because of tab moulded into the flasher. I found another that looked right (smooth sides, same wiring diagram as the stock flasher). I tried it and it was apperently for a different load than our cars as I got consistant but way to fast flashes. I then tried a heavy duty flasher - BIG mistake. I hit the hazards, heard a pop and they were dead as a door nail.

I popped a fuse under the hood (turn signals) and another under the dash (brake lights). When that brake light fuse goes out you can't shift the ATX out of park .

I got the fuses swapped and drove back to the Ford dealer. I asked if he stocked the flasher and he did not. He had my switch on the counter though. Wouldn't you know it, the new switch doesn't include a flasher.

Since the stock flasher is potted and the terminals on it were not loose in the least bit I decided to go ahead and swap the switch in case it was a loose contact in the switch itself.

With the new switch and the old flasher the car did absolutely nothing. It acted exactly the same as it did when the fuse popped. I swapped the old switch back in and got part time turn signals.

I went back in and had the dealer order me a flasher. I went and picked it up at the warehouse since otherwise I'd have to wait until Monday.

I put the new flasher on the new switch and it works perfect now. I couldn't return the switch since it is an electrical part .

If anyone needs the partnumbers:

Turn Signal Switch ($150ish): F5RZ-13K359-B
Flasher ($15): F8RZ-13350-AA

Long story short... I spent $180 (with tax) fixing a $15.00 problem.

Autozone has the turn signal switch for $50ish but it takes a few days to get.

Anyone want to buy a perfectly good '98 turn signal switch?

Shawn

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Your right, that's the first one I've heard about. That is why the dealer soesn't stock it. It seldom fails.

Thanks for the update.


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