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#1032872 08/23/04 06:23 PM
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Reading a signature says:

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1/4 - 15.012 @ 90.58

I see ppl posting similar near flat 15's for non-SVT's...assuming stock. So if that's the case what's other ppl posting 1/4 mile times..STOCK. I've never taken my SVT to the track. The owner's manual says high 15's but we all know that's Ford's silly conservative side.



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A flat 15s in a non-SVT is far from stock. Stock is around 16. An SVT stock can do about a 15.6 or so. Although stock would mean you're going to ruin your trans. on the 1st or 2nd run, so...


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Originally posted by RyeLou:
Although stock would mean you're going to ruin your trans. on the 1st or 2nd run, so...



15 flat from a non-SVT would be either awesome weather at a great track on a very well modified car or near unheard of traction with all the above.

A stock SVT is roughly 15.2-15.4 @ 90-91 Very driver dependant!!!

It could easily be 16 with a typical driver and/or poor weather/track.


Yes wheel hop kills the stock diff. However that also is mainly the driver's fault if it breaks IMO.
Mine lasted through 100's maybe a 1000 of my insane launches. Now it was on it's last legs when I took it out but it was still working.

Heck there was a guy who ran a 14.7x with a few bolt ons based on his 5000rpm launches. (stock diff!) The first 330' make or break an excellent run on this platform. It's not only the 60' but the 1-2 shift as well.

After hearing many horror stories I would have thought my diff would have broken many years ago. Like I stated it must be more driver related with maybe some bad luck thrown in. I had had mine wheel hop so bad it threw it out of gear at least 3 times. (that's very bad on the driver's part )


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That 15.012 was Scott's (mmarfan on these forums) factory freak with quite a few mods. SVT UIM, 65mm TB, Apexi S-AFC, custom dual exhaust, Short ram intake (I believe), Eibach & Koni, and probably a few other mods. He got rid of it and drives a Mazda 6s last I heard.. I went to the track with him a couple times, but now that he has the Mazda, I don't see him post much, and I don't hear from him anymore.
Besides the mods, he could bang gears pretty well, too.
Edit: BTW, my best E.T. in the SVT so far has been 15.593 @89.88 with a poopy 2.409 60'. I've gotten 60' times of 2.3xx, but this was on a day that was good weather (more h.p.), I just couldn't pull together a decent launch that day.

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I personally don't believe in factory freaks, I believe the only difference in the range of times is because of the driver and how good of shape the car is in. Some people can't drive, let alone drag race Good racing whether is also key, i personally pefer to drag in the winter or nice low 60 degree whether. I'm sure with the right driver, a 2k SVT in great mechnical shape, poly filled motor and tranny mounts on a cold night with a great launch... could run low 15's, possibly high 14's race prepped of course, i.e. no spare, good tires/inflated properly... etc..


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Yeah the diff. is an odd little thing. Before I broke mine I had been to the track and done a handful of stupid little burnouts. When it actually broke, I wasn't doing anything out of the ordinary. The real odd part was I broke it in East Lansing and still drove back to Troy, about an hour and a half away. That was on a Sunday. I drove it Monday to/from work, then when I got home Monday I knew something was wrong for sure. I drove it to the dealership Tuesday morning and barely made it there. Had to take side streets because I was affraid to stop...I didn't think I'd get it going again. The mechanic there took it for a test drive, and it broke down not even 2 miles into it! The torsen is my friend though.


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There are factory freaks. Just not many of them.
I only say that because the SHOs have more than a few factory freaks. There have been a few BONE STOCK SHOs turn 14.7 +/- times, while others struggle to pull 15.2s....
Originally posted by Quick_SVT:
I personally don't believe in factory freaks, I believe the only difference in the range of times is because of the driver and how good of shape the car is in. Some people can't drive, let alone drag race Good racing whether is also key, i personally pefer to drag in the winter or nice low 60 degree whether. I'm sure with the right driver, a 2k SVT in great mechnical shape, poly filled motor and tranny mounts on a cold night with a great launch... could run low 15's, possibly high 14's race prepped of course, i.e. no spare, good tires/inflated properly... etc..




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I'd bet my money on the driver of the "factory freak". "In life there drivers and there passengers" which one are you? I love that commercial! Okay, maybe i could believe in a small variance in power in some vehicles "factory freaks" but not! enough to drop the times by 5-6 tenths...

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There are factory freaks, just loot at some dyno plots from stock vehicles. I know with srt4s there are often variations.


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Granted, the "factory freak" variance is not going to account for half a second on the 1/4 mi. You did look at the list of mods on that car too, right? And I'm sure there might have been a few mods he didn't tell me about or that I don't remember.
Factory freaks come about because of loose tolerances in the manufacturing process. Sometimes they stack up, sometimes they don't. I call my SVT a "factory funk" because I don't think the tolerances stacked up very well on it. If you don't believe in factory freaks, tell me how my wife's Saturn has run a 15.61 @ 88.49, with a 2.442 60'? BONE STOCK. That was the same day I ran my 15.59. And she ran 15.624 @ 88.44 that same day, just so you don't think it was a leaf blowing in front of the timer or something.
Also, now that all this has been brought up about driver skills, I feel I must qualify my crappy E.T. First of all, when I say that it was good weather, I don't necessarily mean GOOD weather for drag racing, just the best I have had when running the 'tour. Temperature was around high 70's, and it was humid (as it seems it always is here in Ohio). My SVTC was bone stock except for a SHO shop hot air intake , and I'm sure the fact that my front end seems to sit higher than the back has something to do with the bad 60' (I have gotten plenty in the 2.3's, lowest being 2.311). I'll post some times after I get new springs & struts under it, hopefully very soon.


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