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#1019806 08/04/04 01:01 AM
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well this is my first manual car my family has had but still it's mine and im the only one who drives it on a regular basis. well the question i have is how do i know when my cluthch is going bad, my car has about 40k on it now. should i be looking for a new one yet, and also if so could i buy the clutch/flywheel kit that i want and have it installed by a ford dealership since it has an extended warranty and it covers the driveterain instead of doing it myself?


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also sometimes when im sitting still it's hard to get the car to go in first or reverse. it only does it some times and i have to kinda force it to go in gear. it's not like it just does it on a hill or something like that. it seems to be at random times.


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Regarding the lifespan of a clutch, the old adage - your mileage may vary - is the key.

Clutches if used properly are like many other components in a car, they have an inverse bell curve for failure rates. That is to say that their greatest frequencies for failure occur at the begining of their useage and at the end of their normal expected lifespan.

It's not unusual to get well over 100,000 - 200,000 miles out of one if it's not abused. I figure I've got over 1,000,000 miles of driving cars (mostly manual transmission) with the highest milegage being around 160,000 and only had 2 go bad. One was a manufacturing fault that showed up within 10K the other was a pressure plate failure after 150k. The stock clutch is more than capable of handling the power of a N/A SVT.

I'm certainly no expert in ths area but your problems with engaging 1st & reverse could be:
- clutch related: slave cylinder and or pressure plate or
- transmission related: syncros

I was wondering, does the condition occur wheither the motor is running or off? If it occurs at both times I'd be more inclined to suspect the syncros but others may be better at diagnosing this.

Regarding possible repairs, I'd lean toward using the dealer IF you have a good relationship with them and feel they've got a very good mechanic (there is no substitute for a good mechanic - low labour rates are usually more expensive if the quality and speed of the work is wanting). Many prefer independent mechanics but if their the same level of expertiese (find the best you can) the factory trained SVT Certified mechanic is going to have the edge on finding the problem quicker and depending on the dealership, being able to stand behind the work better. I have always made it a point to get to know my mechanic and meet with them personally so they have a face and a person to associate with the car.

Because these are FWD cars, clutch/transmission work is time consuming (read expensive) and what I have done and suggest others consider, is to negotiate a flat up-front-fee for the entire job (net of parts). IIFC, the manual has approx., a 9 hour time rate for a clutch replacement so I would look at suggesting to them that you'd be willing to give them the work for 9hrs X Shop Rate X (0.80 or 0.75).

Good luck.

Regards, Alan



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Originally posted by 9824vsvt33k:
also sometimes when im sitting still it's hard to get the car to go in first or reverse. it only does it some times and i have to kinda force it to go in gear. it's not like it just does it on a hill or something like that. it seems to be at random times.




that's more or less normal, I think it indicates slight wear, nothing to worry about. pumping the clutch or kicking the gas while the clutch is depressed might help.

bleeding the clutch or replacing tranny fluid might help too, if you're very annoyed by this.

I second the other opinion, clutches in contours last very long, I've replaced mines at 170k (and it still had some life in it), I remember other members reported mileages well above 100-150k with agressive driving style.

synchros in the tranny are more of a weak point, IMHO changing the tranny fluid regularly is important.

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Originally posted by 9824vsvt33k:
also sometimes when im sitting still it's hard to get the car to go in first or reverse. it only does it some times and i have to kinda force it to go in gear. it's not like it just does it on a hill or something like that. it seems to be at random times.




If you'll put it in a second gear first and than in to 1st will it go in easy ? May be linkage out of adjustment.


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sorry my keys are messing up on my pc so bear wit me but it only oes it wen te car is on im not to conncern wit it now i ust wante to know wat was up tanks for te info im not gonna write anymore till i get te keys fix tis sucks


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I've noticed the same reverse/first problem as well. I have a much harder time with reverse, but I have seen first do it a couple times. Linkage makes sense. My car has 65k on it, and I don't think the clutch has ever been replaced. I know I've had to let off the pedal almost completely to engage since I bought it at 42k, but it's still going strong. If you treat em right, they last. It's stood up to autocrossing, so I guess they're pretty strong.


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Originally posted by imnotted:
I've noticed the same reverse/first problem as well. I have a much harder time with reverse, but I have seen first do it a couple times. Linkage makes sense.




I had exact same problem on a completely different car. Hard to put into first or reverse - was worse if it below 60 outside. Brought it to dealer - they readjusted the linkage, billed warranty for 0.8 hour labor. Later it started acting up again a little , dealer changed the shifter (for a different issue) and it was great since.


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