i roared my car up to 105 with this honda, come to find out my car dies and goes back down.. 3 weeks before that it was hitting 112 and stalling down... why is it only going 105 now?

lol...i dunno..but something has to be wrong because my GL will go 130 and i dont feel a thing..no shaking or nothing. i dont even have any after market engine mods..so i guess youd want to get your problem checked..lol...because if my little GL doesnt have a problem, then i know your SE shouldnt.

"sniff"

I smell something here. That ain't no stock puter in that Zetec then and I bet that speedo is off.

John

LOL...no you must be wrong...your car must be whipped all to hell then! ....no aftermarket stuff? i beleive it..my moms kia can do 105 for gods sake...

Yeah I smell something too, like bull$hit
J/K There is no way on earth your tour(zetec) does 130 stock. You said you dont have a chip right? What year is your tour?

What, did ya have about 10 miles of straight road with no traffic to hit that speed? Takes my car quite a while to get up to 110, ain't no way it's hitting 130.

well my car doesnt do 0 to 130 in like 5 secs no..lol...but there was traffic..i like to weave in and out. and NO NO NO aftermarket stuff and Im not bullsh*ting anyone. its a 1997..I guess my car just kicks some A** and other contours arent as good..my friends 96 GL wouldnt go that fast either....BUT MINE WILL WITH NO AFTERMARKET MODS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! dont be jealous..it wont get you anywhere...

i think you lie more then i do.

Theres a wire that you can cut to remove the 105 speed limit. Its only on certain years, I dont remember.. But if your car is running at ease.. that 105 limit can be easily advanced.. say if your going a little downhill.. or you have aerodynamics more than complimenting.. whatever want to say it is...
Only downside is that it shows the check engine light all the time if u have it disconnected.

hrm...

here you go.........
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Tip#8 - 105Mph Speed Limit Removal
From: Bill (ZX2.com)
May 18 1999
Difficulty: Moderate
So you want to disable your speed limit (AKA Governor)? Pictures coming up soon. Here ya go guys!! Remove your dual cup-holders and locate the wiring harness beneath them. Cut the black plastic piece surrounding the wires. Carefully find the white wire with the BLACK stripe. 'mere is a white wire with a green stripe... make sure that's not it Cut the white wire with the BLACK stripe. All done!

I added a toggle switch to my governor. For about 3 dollars, you can go to radio shack and buy a small switch. Connect one side of the governor wire to the center terminal, and one to whichever side you want. Drill a small hole in your center console, and mount the switch, I also had to buy a small reel of hook-up wire to lengthen the governor wire.

Your car should have a check engine light pop up after a couple days This is normal, don't worry The switch I use makes it so that my light doesn't come on for the governor. www.ZX2.com or its creators WILL NOT be held responsible for any damage or financial compensations caused in whole or in part by the information held on this page. If you choose to disable your governor, please be responsible with it. Webmaster Zx2.com

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And I don't Hold any liability to this mod.. but I've tried it, and it works pretty damn good!

haha see i said they could go faster then 105 without any aftermarket mods...whos bullsh*tting now??

i got my car up 124 in 4th and then 136 in 5th but had to slow cause of traffic but it was still going.

But the ZX2 weighs several hundred pounds less than the Contour.. Getting my car from 100 to 110 takes quite a long time. Only way the Contour is hitting 130 is on a steep straigh downhill that lasts for several miles.

my 99 se is the same way....105 then zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....it will go no faster

Don't be too quick to sneer at 130 mph from a standard Zetec.

My Mondeo 2.0 has the same engine and I've had 125 out of it (confirmed on GPS). No mods. Straight and level (M45 for those who know it).

Monkeyra has had similar speeds out of his 1.8, and I believe that was *before* he removed his cat

Regards

Shawn

Quit whinin! The dew truck hits 66 and ZZZ!

just had to post somwhere to check out the new forum setup.. and yes mine dies at 105 w/ a 2.0L zetec 96

What wire is this. would I beable to do it to my 96 mystique?

Weaving in and out of traffic at 130mph? I driven my SVT to 135 (indicated) once and 120 a few times so far. I don't recommend doing it in traffic. I just bought a handheld GPS for other purposes, but have used it in my other two vehicles so far to verifiy speedo error. Looking forward to finding out how fast I really went.

I've got a car that's lighter than the Contour and about the same power (135Hp). No way it's going 130 and it has shorter gears. You must have small tires and hit 120 actual tops.

Well mine is a flogging 97 Zetec with the sport package, and its limited to 110.....

I know it will pull more with the limiter removed........

#1, the ZX2 guys have different wiring and a different computer. You cannot just cut the wire like they describe. It's been discussed a long time ago. #2, you have the difference between the MTX and ATX. Gearing, final drive, weight, etc. #3, the euro beasts are just that, different beasts. Different calibrations, different cars, different in lots of ways...you fellas have much more fun, accessories and all around better cars.

Either way, I don't believe for one minute that an American model in Zetec format of any kind did 130 (even indicated on the speedo)

John

I agree with this completely!! But, I think it is definitely possible with a few mods, like exhaust/intake, superchip, and t/c
But, stock, I mean get real......there isnt many American made 4-cyl that will do 120mph. If i'm wrong shoot me, but this is my opinion, if someone proves it to me, I will be more than willing to take back everything I said.
I mean I have a Zetec and know what it can and cannot do.

Hell, this past weekend at our Ferrari Challenge meet I was trying to chase down the SVT's and Duratecs in the bunch. Going up a small hill on the interstate the car would not go over 102 with the pedal floored. Just not enough power.

I'll second what flipper has said. I've done 125mph with just a K&N filter. And I did 120mph just the other day with a mate in the car racing some suzuki thing. It will do it easily.

y'all are morons!!! Did she say she could go 130 in like 6 seconds? No she didn't!!! It takes a while to get up there but she can get there.If you have a nice long stretch of highway you can get up some speed.Wouldn't it be funny to see your guys faces if one da she proves it and you "disbeleivers" feel like retards? :rolleyes:

I'll bring my SVT and my GPS and ride right behind. Then I'll be the first to know if it's true. But, I still doubt 130mph is possible. The old Neons stopped at 117 with 150Hp. The fastest stock 4-cyl sold in America was the Chevy Bertta GTZ, with 180Hp and a 5-speed - around the 130 mark. No, never mind. There are Saabs that go faster, again with more power than the Zetec.
For what it's worth, Cartest shows 121mph for a Zetec Contour.

sure you weren't looking at KPH????

heh, i had a funny experience with my speed limiter last night, i was racing late 80's prelude along the freeway, i was pulling hard, but loosing ground, but i pulled into the fast lane ahead of him, because the other two lanes were full, i looked at my speedo and knew what was about to happen, the limiter kicked in, but HAHAHAHA he was stuck behind me, and the reason he ended up passing me was because there were road works and the freeway was closed, so he tore up and cut in front of a whole load of other cars while i slowed down and pulled in at the back of the line.... twas exciting especially since my from right was half flat....

For what it's worth, I was on my way from Flagstaff to Phoenix a couple of weeks ago in my 'tour and decided to have some fun in the twisties. Until that day, I had never pushed my car to the governor, so I really didn't know what to expect. Much to my surprise, she pulled relatively smoothly up to 110 (or so) when the governor kicked in. Keep in mind I was in 4th at about 5300 rpm. Just some quick estimation tells me that, barring a hurricane headwind, the car could probably do 130-135 sans governor. Someone posted the idea of installing a governor-bypass switch. I think I'll do that, head north and let you guys know what happens...

Prove the non-believers WRONG!!!!
On the way home from the airport today in my mates 1.3 escort, with 4 suitcases, going downhill we had 120mph.
Just summin to think on.

LOL...KPH?? UUMM no..sorry this is OHIO..we dont look at KPH...ANYWAY...if a freakin 1.3 litre escort can do 120 (downhill or not) then I do believe my Contour can do 130..I challenge anyone to stop by North Canton if your ever in Ohio..look me up..and I'll prove it!! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL just a bunch of little boys on here...

Look lass, i was nay saying you were lying, but the car cannot do that speed stock, did you buy it used, in that case maybe the previous owner did something to the limiter. All i know is that my Sport package Zetec pnly goes to 110, and if ANY Zetec is created more equall than others it should be one with the sport package shouldn't it?

LOL...Maybe she was lookin at KPH...210KPH that is....stock can do it...you just cant whip the engine all to hell like most ppl and prob alot of ppl on here do...its all in how the car is taken care of.....

my car will PULL alot more than one ten, but it is electronicly limited... i take care of it just fine.....

Well my Zetec is completely unmodified, no changes from the day it rolled out of the Genk plant (apart from 80,000 miles) - standard air filter, exhaust, spark plugs everything. And it did 125 mph. On a flat level (empty) motorway. And not just once. And yes, it was *Miles* Per Hour (Kilometers - spit!). And that speed was read off a Magellan 310 GPS.

It's not that surprising surely, I had a 1.6 Austin Maestro that would do 115, and I had my Vauxhall Cavalier 1.8 to 120 (130 indicated) regularly. Admittedly it took me most of Belgium and Holland to get to that speed, but it would then sit there for over an hour.

Your sweeping statement that a 'stock' Zetec won't do that sort of speed is not borne out by my experience.

Regards

Shawn

The european and USA ones have different computers.....

The car is perfectly capable of doing 130 im sure, but MY computer limits ME to 110. Mine is a 97 GL with the sport package, the contour in question was also a 97 GL, mine has the sport package. Mine wont do anything over 110, until i mod it. Did Ford differ the cars that much, even with the same basic trim level of the same year?

You know what..if GOD himself told you that a 1997 GL would and could do 130 MPH (not KPH)..you still wouldnt believe it. Same computer or not..all cars are different...just leave it at that and move on..its not worth arguing about just becuase yours wont do it....

read my lips, it CAN and it WILL, but MINE WONT untill I REMOVE the limiter...

I'm with APT.. And yes you did say it went 130.."lol...i dunno..but something has to be wrong because my GL will go 130 and i dont feel a thing..no shaking or nothing. i dont even have any after market engine mods..so i guess youd want to get your problem checked..lol...because if my little GL doesnt have a problem, then i know your SE shouldnt" as I read along with everyone else.. Sure I'll bring my GPS and we'll see... 130mph in a Zetec?? Yeah.. wind resistance keeps most SVT's from doing more than 145... AND THAT'S WITH 70 MORE HORSEPOWER.. Please wake up.. you are in a dream world. Your Zetec is speed limited and weaving in and out of traffic (As I have been witness to) will only get you in trouble some day.. Why do you even post such lies? The only morons here are you.. because a true stock 2.0L does not have a strong power band in the high rev range.

Dom

Boy just cuz someone is a Mechanic means he knows EVERYTHING huh? Dom the only reason your saying all this in this thread and all the other having to do with Nikki is because your pissed at her and probably me too but that is no reason to be an all around DlCK about everything ya know?

Just so I can clear this up, is this argument about the fact the Zetec UNRESTRICTED (ie, your 110mph govenor bollox) will NOT do 130mph (which is crap because I and flipper can do it) or the fact that the contour in america cant because of the govenor?

Hmm... I play with cars all day... Let's see here.. The basic question is does a regular stock (No mods)97GL make it to 130mph ?? no.. (simply put)Ets, think as you may.. But smear my name a few more times and we'll see how fast both of your car/trucks run when I come down there with a few other people to shut both of you two up for good. Geesh.. You must be some kind of nut calling people "Dicks" and "Gay" .. I'm glad you don't know me and hell for that matter.. You are basically what I called you earlier.. "LOSER!"...Gosh man.. check your screws because they are LOOSE!

Dom

And BTW... Everything I stated is fact.. "Do you comprehend the meaning of "fact" Bill??" No thought not.

Dom what the hell is up your a** lately? I havent said or done anything to you and now all of a sudden your being a d*ckhead?? Let whatever crawled up your a** go because it must hurt to walk like that....your mad on a personal level...so if you have something to say to me...do it elsewhere then on a freaking website...

[pimp mode]

Okay y'all! You's better ****ing calm down or else I will smack y'all upside the head with my pimp cane.


You all are my *****es now!

[/pimp mode]

dude i'm done with you, your not worth the time or hastle and your just as bad as me cuz your keeping this going too.Takes two to argue...END OF CONVERSATION!


P.S. Threatening ppl over the internet is the ultimate LOW and shows what kind of guy you really are. Answer me this one question this last time: What did i ever do to you for you to start acting snotty to me?

That's the best news I've heard in a while.. And I think my acting "snotty" is in your head.. But who knows and I really don't care... And no.. I'm not accepting your IM!!! We have nothing to talk about. Go away and way to go making this personal and taking casualties.

Threatening?? HEHE.. yeah Racing you and yours is really a threat huh?? Shows me how much you comprehend what you read.. God you are hilarious... HAHAHA!
Dom

hey i'm just trying to let you know i mean nothing of what i say in here.This is the internet only entertainment i'm only joking around.

No! I want the last word! And that's final!

WORD

my 1.8 mondeo has done 125mph!
and 120mph 2-up.

once again: WORD

Ok... Monk... You bring your European spec Escort or Mondeo's over here .. ****With a full tank of your European petrol**** Which is ten times more potent than our is( And higher octane).. And cost about twice as much to boot.. And sure.. You'll get to 130 no problem.. European specs usually don't have speed limiters in their cars.. Just like japanese cars..(In Japan).. No limiter and all power.. No emissions restrictions or heavy laws..(Damn Congress and Politicians..) I just wish I could import a European spec Mondy over here and let everyone oogle at the fact that it will do fabulous things.. But not on our gas it wont..lol

OK... and just food for thought.. Contour97GL and Ets_4rds.. you are a team obviously..Cause you back eachother up.. But answer me this one question.. Have you ever taken your Zetec to 130?? You never stated that you did... Only that you believe it could.. Just because the speedo reads 130 doesn't mean it will reach there.. So please tell us the truth... Have you or haven't you?

Touche'!

Dom

I've gone 119 in my Zetec. And that was before any mods

lol, i think this could be a long argument...............
cardoc, you are correct about the petrol. hen i was in florida last week, i couldnt believe that your premium unleaded pterol is lower octane than our regular!! I was certinly surprised!
but what i'd give for your prices!

Yes, our American (water)petrol is only good for lawnmowers and chainsaws..Maybe that's why the Honda's run so good??? (Expecting to get flamed out of this world now..lol...Where's Infuryium? )Anyhow.. 119 is not bad.. Top speed that I could believe for 130 hp is probably 120. That's about all you are going to eek out of that small Zetec. I don't think that there is anyone else on this board (In the US) that has been able to top 120 or 121mph.. That's it. The SVT's don't have a speed limiter and they have 70 more horsepower and can only manage a mere 20-25mph more.. because of sheer wind resistance.. Go ahead- Open your sunroof at 120 and stick your head out.. I dare ya.. That'll teach some people real quick about the properties behind wind resistance.. :p

Dom

I have a question, could the people who have done over 110 in their Zetec's please tell me the location of their car's manufacture?

I have been thinking, and was wondering if maybe the contours manufactured in mexico have a higher top speed, mine was built in the US, just a thought....

WORD :P

mine was built in europe.

I hit 119 and mine was built in mexico. Maybe I can help you guys settle this and head out to the higheway with my camera and take a picture of the speedo.

Ditto

The Molemobile (94, 2.0L Zetec) has a lap chart from Brands Hatch with 136mph on it. K&N, fse, suspension and exhaust only.

US Contours have to contend with A/C, ATX, low RON petrol, crap rubber and low speed limits, and knobbled engines

Mine cruises at GPS 120mph (5500rpm) on the autobahn, and I have taken her off the speedo (indicated >150, 5th at ~7500rpm) which just made a loud ticking noise at the stop, at Brands. (Not a recorded lap so no official speed on that one :()

Here comes the damp towel on the petrol discussion.

Does the UK measure octane the same way as the US?

Why do I ask? Because what you see on a US pump is an average of the RON and MON numbers.

For those who don't know, RON is the Research Octane Number and MON is the Motor Octane Number.

Two different ways to measure octane.

Give the same fuel, one is usually higher than the other.

So, we might actually have more similar fuels than you think.

Comparing these numbers may not be an apples to apples comparison.

HTH ( well, really I hope it muddies the waters to provoke thought! )

TB

tony, you've just thrown a complete spanner in the works!!!!

I think this is a proper translation for those of us on the US side of the pond.

"Tony, you've thrown a BIG monkey wrench into the machine!"

Cheers,

TB

lmao!!!! I like it!!!

The US uses PON, which is the average of RON and MON. On average its about 4 below the same Europe rating and is considered to be more accurate a measure for todays cars. The European RON test is carried out at lower revs. So our 8=95 RON is about equivalent to 91-92 US PON.

Modern Engine Tuning by A.G.Bell gives a good explanation and is a very good book on REAL engine tuning.

Here is a look up table

RON (Europe) PON (US)
90 86.5
92 88.5
95 91
96 92
98 94
100 95.8
105 100
110 104.5

I'm stuck in Paris again with work this week so I might do a page on the different fuel measuring systems for my web site.

So it looks like your US gas is nearly the same as our petrol. Must be the US cars that suck then!!!

Can't we all just get along?

But what would be the fun in that? Arguments is what makes life fun!!

True... good arguements stir the blood a little.. make you feel alive..lol Anyhow.. If I could only get my hands on a Mondeo PCM for a 2.5l (late model)MTX.. would I be happy!!! Hey Monk, are there any wrecked late model Mondy's over there for parts?? I would be interested in somehing like that if you could help???

Dom

sure thing cardoc.
If you pay a visit to www.mondeopart.co.uk and say that the mondeo enthusiasts group sent you there, i'm sure he'd be able to help you! He has TONS of stuff!!

Thanks Monk, I'll take a look into that next week and see what I can find. 5stars for the help guy!

Dom

Err,
I thought MarineSE had traded in his Contour for a Mustang Cobra? With a chip? So how could he be having these problems?


R

With all the debate about the top speed of a Zetec Contique, I just could resist putting my 98 Contour 5-speed Ecvt Zetec to the test.
On the way to work a flat, empty stretch of highway opened up. At full throttle, I did not feel any g-force, but the speedo steadily climbed to about 108 mph and was still climbing when I had to hit the brakes. My only modification is a K&N filter. It seemed like I could have easily topped 110. I don't think that I could do the same in my 98 Mystique ATX zetec but on the right day I just might try.

well i have not really had a chance to test out the limits of my contour. i do think it could go up to speeds of that nature in fact i'll try it out tomorrow on the interstate

115 is the best i could get out of my contour

FYI the article on the dirfferences in grading petrol and Octane ratings RON V PON is now available on my website

Definately something they do to US cars cos over on our side of the ponds even a Mini can do 110mph

Definitely. For heavens sake, I had a 1.6 Maestro that could do +/- 115 (although I don't like to talk about that period of my life)

And my 1800 Cavalier was good for 120ish - fuel gauge used to move in real time though !

Regards

Shawn

A Maestro doing -115mph, that must have been something to see

I envisage clouds of smoke, rust flying everywhere and that horrible computer saying "Warning, your brakes have failed!"

It may well have been something to see, it certainly wasn't something to be inside ;)Must have been the one week I owned it when the twin carbs were in balance !



Yeah, in Polish or Spanish or whatever language it had decided to talk that week ! Ahh, happy memories.

Regards

Shawn