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It's been about two months since my car was repainted, and it's about time to get her waxed up. I was talking to an auto detailer about having him do it for me, and he mentioned putting paint sealant on. I am unfamiliar with the pros or cons of this, and don't know what to tell him. Also, what should be the correct type of wax to use for the first time on a freshly painted black car? I'd appreciate some input from some of you detailing gurus. Thanks in advance.

Originally posted by CLASSVT:
It's been about two months since my car was repainted, and it's about time to get her waxed up. I was talking to an auto detailer about having him do it for me, and he mentioned putting paint sealant on. I am unfamiliar with the pros or cons of this, and don't know what to tell him. Also, what should be the correct type of wax to use for the first time on a freshly painted black car? I'd appreciate some input from some of you detailing gurus. Thanks in advance.

Bah, most paint sealants are sythns. It would be much cheaper for you to do it yourself. I would suggest Zaino or Klasse AIO.

I am not sure what sythns are...

But I'm getting the drift that you don't think it's necessary, or even worth the elbow grease. I would do it myself, but I'm a little scared of getting white residue all over my new trim pieces. I saw this guy's work on a buddies black corvette, and he left no residue. I'd be willing to give it a shot though. Wax on...Wax off. Is that all there is to it?

Synths is short for "Synthetic" which is a man made type of protection as opposed to a natural type of protection like carnauba wax. Synthetic products tend to me more durable and have a higher tolerance to extreme temperatures (which would be very beneficial to your black car)

Between checking out the stickies on here, doing a little bit of research and asking some questions I'm sure you can handle applying some sort of sealant to your car.

As far as protecting your trim pieces from getting white residue on them first of all most synthetic products are designed with ease of use in mind so they can easily be wiped off of the trim if you accidentially got some on the trim. Also, before waxing you could apply a vinyl,rubber,trim protectant type product to the trim. This would make it even easier to wipe off of the trim if you were to get some on it. There are a ton of these types of products on the market. Or another option could be for you to cover the trim up with some painters tape.

wax is become a generic term. most of the durable stuff is synthetic wax also known as paint sealants after you apply polish. since its been 2 months u can put anything u want on the car. use your favorite stuff and go nuts

Zaino is your Friend.

Screw having someone apply a "paint sealant" to your car, its not worth the money they're going to charge you. This is something that you can do yourself and don't worry about the paint, I'm sure its good to go by now

Quite simply, apply some Klasse AIO, then follow it up by (2) coats of Klasse Sealant Glaze (waiting 8 hrs inbetween coats) and finish it up with some quality caranuba. Your choices are many, but don't worry about white residue if you go with one of these:

-Pinnacle "signature series"
-Pinnacle "Souveran" (made for black, red and dark colors)
-S100

Once your done doing this, rinse the car and dry it off to even things out and your all set. Make sure you use microfiber towels to remove, it is also your friend. After this, I'd do the car once a month as black is very demanding

Originally posted by Klasse Act:
Screw having someone apply a "paint sealant" to your car, its not worth the money they're going to charge you. This is something that you can do yourself and don't worry about the paint, I'm sure its good to go by now Quite simply, apply some Klasse AIO, then follow it up by (2) coats of Klasse Sealant Glaze (waiting 8 hrs inbetween coats) and finish it up with some quality caranuba. Your choices are many, but don't worry about white residue if you go with one of these:

-Pinnacle "signature series"
-Pinnacle "Souveran" (made for black, red and dark colors)
-S100

Once your done doing this, rinse the car and dry it off to even things out and your all set. Make sure you use microfiber towels to remove, it is also your friend. After this, I'd do the car once a month as black is very demanding

The reason you have to do it once a month is due to the fact you topped a sythn with carnuba. I can't stress this enough. Only top a synth with carnuba if you are going to a show or have a garage queen.

You are wasting your money if you put a carnuba on a daily driver, unless you enjoy waxing your car every two weeks or every month.

Originally posted by Antonio Wright:

Originally posted by Klasse Act:
Screw having someone apply a "paint sealant" to your car, its not worth the money they're going to charge you. This is something that you can do yourself and don't worry about the paint, I'm sure its good to go by now Quite simply, apply some Klasse AIO, then follow it up by (2) coats of Klasse Sealant Glaze (waiting 8 hrs inbetween coats) and finish it up with some quality caranuba. Your choices are many, but don't worry about white residue if you go with one of these:

-Pinnacle "signature series"
-Pinnacle "Souveran" (made for black, red and dark colors)
-S100

Once your done doing this, rinse the car and dry it off to even things out and your all set. Make sure you use microfiber towels to remove, it is also your friend. After this, I'd do the car once a month as black is very demanding

The reason you have to do it once a month is due to the fact you topped a sythn with carnuba. I can't stress this enough. Only top a synth with carnuba if you are going to a show or have a garage queen.

You are wasting your money if you put a carnuba on a daily driver, unless you enjoy waxing your car every two weeks or every month.

Remember Roger waxes his car every week.

Originally posted by Antonio Wright:

Originally posted by Klasse Act:
Screw having someone apply a "paint sealant" to your car, its not worth the money they're going to charge you. This is something that you can do yourself and don't worry about the paint, I'm sure its good to go by now Quite simply, apply some Klasse AIO, then follow it up by (2) coats of Klasse Sealant Glaze (waiting 8 hrs inbetween coats) and finish it up with some quality caranuba. Your choices are many, but don't worry about white residue if you go with one of these:

-Pinnacle "signature series"
-Pinnacle "Souveran" (made for black, red and dark colors)
-S100

Once your done doing this, rinse the car and dry it off to even things out and your all set. Make sure you use microfiber towels to remove, it is also your friend. After this, I'd do the car once a month as black is very demanding

The reason you have to do it once a month is due to the fact you topped a sythn with carnuba. I can't stress this enough. Only top a synth with carnuba if you are going to a show or have a garage queen.

You are wasting your money if you put a carnuba on a daily driver, unless you enjoy waxing your car every two weeks or every month.

Wasting your money is in the eye of the beholder, if i want a CRAZY shine and ultimate depth for 1-2 weeks and thats what im looking for then a Carnuba is for you, its only a waste if you use a Carnuba expecting it to last forever.

Pure synthetics can and should be applied to non-porous trim pieces - rubber, metal, mirrors, glass, headlights, taillights. They protect far longer than any products "designed" for rubber/vinyl.

Should you get any wax on porous trim, use an old toothbrush and peanut butter. It's an old detailer's trick.

You always want to apply a sealant - period. A true sealant serves a purpose - to protect.

It's your choice whether you want to apply a carnauba or not. Please don't use generic recommendations to finish with a carnauba - it's bad advice. Live in Arizona? Using carnauba is stupid. Is your car stored in the sun 24/7, a daily driver and you don't like waxing? Carnauba is not for you. Enjoy waxing a lot, dark color, not extremely hot environment? Carnauba. It should be used situationally dependent onc color, environment, daily-driver or non, garaged on open, how frequently you want to wax, how much you want to spend, etc.

I choose not to use carnuaba. I think the difference between a synthetic and carnauba is negligible and not worth applying carnauba once a month or more. Nor do I have time between three jobs.

I never apply a carnauba to a customer's car. They wont notice the difference between a synthetic and carnauba unless I did half and half and pointed it out to them. Even then they would say "Oh yeah, it is slightly blacker on that side."

They just want a shiney, clean car. I use a nice sealant that takes less time to apply and I'm on my way.

Ok well if it would have been abbreviated correctly (synth, instead of sythn) I would have probably picked up on the whole synthetic thing. But thank you for all of the info guys. I will most likely go with a synthetic since it is a daily driver. So I should put synthetic on my trim pieces, as long as they are non-porous? What technically is a porous trim piece? Also, should the sealant be applied immediately after the wax? Thanks.

the paint sealant is the wax. its synthetic wax. just another way of saying synth wax

Ahhh... thanks for clearing that up.

just polish the car then use whatever synth wax u prefer. since it was painted u shouldnt have to clay or compound. most shops will polish the car after its painted. but it wouldnt hurt for u to polish again then synth wax

Yeah the shop said they'd be happy to polish it again for me, before it's waxed.