Huge request for help... (Toledo)

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Well as luck would have it I sold my SVT on Wednesday and the guy is coming up this coming Wednesday to get it. Of course driving home on Wednesday night the trans started to make bad noises at anytime, at any speed unless completely stopped. Pretty sure it's the diff. based on what I can hear/see so it's gotta come out.

Now onto the request... if ANYBODY is bored and wants free beer and pizza this weekend, as in today (Friday) and Saturday let me know. I can drop it myself but not having done a contour trans. drop before I know it will take 3x as longer than if I had somebody next to me who's done it before.

I know this is a huge request but I know it doesn't hurt to ask.

Usually, a bad diff is not going to be driveable. You sure it's not something like an axle? Describe what types of sounds it's making.

Mark

Sounds like a bearing going bad but it's not a wheel bearing, the noise is coming from inside the transmission. I heard it a week or so ago while on a 90 degree left turn on the expressway and after that it stopped. Then on Wednesday it started after exiting the freeway and continued to make the noise whether I was in gear or out of gear, whether I was pressing the brakes or not. It only stopped when the car was stopped.

Like I said I don't think it's a wheel bearing, but upon your comment I guess there is a chance it could be the axle. After searching I found this post.

But the noise/grinding is heard whenever the clutch is not depressed, upon pressing the clutch in the noise goes away. Both sides spin without any issue (even when at idle and up in the air). Upon that little insight, it could be the TOB as well.

Originally posted by vpogv:
Sounds like a bearing going bad but it's not a wheel bearing, the noise is coming from inside the transmission. I heard it a week or so ago while on a 90 degree left turn on the expressway and after that it stopped. Then on Wednesday it started after exiting the freeway and continued to make the noise whether I was in gear or out of gear, whether I was pressing the brakes or not. It only stopped when the car was stopped.

Like I said I don't think it's a wheel bearing, but upon your comment I guess there is a chance it could be the axle. After searching I found this post.

But the noise/grinding is heard whenever the clutch is not depressed, upon pressing the clutch in the noise goes away. Both sides spin without any issue (even when at idle and up in the air). Upon that little insight, it could be the TOB as well.

sounds a hell of alot more like a TOB then a Diff. A Differential is either broken or working... I have never seen one show signs of "going out" In which case you mide as well just do a whole clutch job, be a good car salesman

Originally posted by AliasJerkâ�??¢:
sounds a hell of alot more like a TOB then a Diff.

I hope so. We'll see, right now I'm dealing with 2 tie-rod ends frozen into the hubs.

Frozen tie rod ends at the hub is easy. Put the nut on the tie rod end part way. Look at the hub....around the area where the tie rod goes into it there will be a boss cast into the hub. Find a BFH and smack that boss like you mean it. That boss is there for a reason.....use it.

Originally posted by AliasJerkâ�??¢:

Originally posted by vpogv:
Sounds like a bearing going bad but it's not a wheel bearing, the noise is coming from inside the transmission. I heard it a week or so ago while on a 90 degree left turn on the expressway and after that it stopped. Then on Wednesday it started after exiting the freeway and continued to make the noise whether I was in gear or out of gear, whether I was pressing the brakes or not. It only stopped when the car was stopped.

Like I said I don't think it's a wheel bearing, but upon your comment I guess there is a chance it could be the axle. After searching I found this post.

But the noise/grinding is heard whenever the clutch is not depressed, upon pressing the clutch in the noise goes away. Both sides spin without any issue (even when at idle and up in the air). Upon that little insight, it could be the TOB as well.

sounds a hell of alot more like a TOB then a Diff. A Differential is either broken or working... I have never seen one show signs of "going out" In which case you mide as well just do a whole clutch job, be a good car salesman

Wrong. Differentials can gradually go out. Depends on the nature of the failure.

I'm with 99SVT. I knew that mine was going out for quite some time. It was just a matter of waiting...

I'm willing to WATCH you guys work on it and learn a thing or two

I've done this once before. It took me a month from start to finish. lol

But I know what I'm doing now. If it is really the trans and you really need it out asap I might be willing to help tomorrow night.

P.S. I pulled mine out the top with the motor, I've never pulled it out the bottom, I don't know what way you were planning on going.

Originally posted by 99SVT:
I've done this once before. It took me a month from start to finish. lol

But I know what I'm doing now. If it is really the trans and you really need it out asap I might be willing to help tomorrow night.

P.S. I pulled mine out the top with the motor, I've never pulled it out the bottom, I don't know what way you were planning on going.

Having pulled too many motors to remember, do the trans swap out the side. It really does take less time.

I get one day off a week...so ya.

I have a hard time thinking it's the axles or carrier bearing since they can be spinning and the clutch pressed in and there is no noise. I have everything mostly unbolted so I just need to drop the subframe. Hopefully by lunch it'll be out. Thanks for all the advice, especially Judge - your advice allowed them to break loose, I just needed a bigger hammer.

If anybody still wants to stop by and admirer I have cold beer. Think of it as a mini-CEG meet.

So I was waaaay off, I am an extremely slow worker as it turns out, everything was dropped and good until I tried to get the 2-3 transmission bolts loose in the front of the car. I am tempted to just pull it all from the top, I think that would be easier at this point.

I do have an offer for anybody semi-close with a down car. I will trade you my transmission, completely rebuilt with a diff of your choice for your transmission. Unfortunately I need it like now, which might be impossible but it doesn't hurt to ask.

If you lived closer to me I would take you up on that offer.

Aaron

Originally posted by vpogv:
So I was waaaay off, I am an extremely slow worker as it turns out, everything was dropped and good until I tried to get the 2-3 transmission bolts loose in the front of the car. I am tempted to just pull it all from the top, I think that would be easier at this point.

I do have an offer for anybody semi-close with a down car. I will trade you my transmission, completely rebuilt with a diff of your choice for your transmission. Unfortunately I need it like now, which might be impossible but it doesn't hurt to ask.

Too bad this didn't happen like two weeks ago I had a stock rebuilt HMS trans just sitting in my garage. But I already sold it.

Originally posted by 99SVT:
Too bad this didn't happen like two weeks ago I had a stock rebuilt HMS trans just sitting in my garage. But I already sold it.

It's alright, a buddy has a trans but couldn't get it out in time.

Anyways, after resting part of last night I went at it tonight around 6 or so. At 10 tonight it came out. It took an hour to cut off one of the trans bolts, caused strain to every single coolant line and ripped a wire out of a sensor, but it came out.

TOB is fine, definitely the diff that is the issue. I'll have the trans shop take it apart tomorrow to check it all out.

Differential was completely shreded, drivers side axle hub was more or less welded to the diff. Cheaper to get a new transmission than to get this one rebuilt. So to reiterate... if anybody has one sitting around ..

Originally posted by vpogv:
Differential was completely shreded, drivers side axle hub was more or less welded to the diff. Cheaper to get a new transmission than to get this one rebuilt. So to reiterate... if anybody has one sitting around ..

CTA motorsports has brand spankin' new MTX75's for only $900 Id jump on that.