**For immediate release**

Terry Haines Motorsports, Inc. and Street Flight, LLC have announced a joint effort in developing the turbocharger kit for the Duratec V6 AND for the Zetec I4

What does this mean?
-THM will be supplying Street Flight with turbo kits for the Zetec I-4 Ford Contour/Mercury Mystique, Escort, and Focus.

-Street Flight will be supplying THM with turbo kits for the Duratec V6 Ford Contour, Mercury Mystique and Cougar.

This partnership will allow the individual companies to concentrate development efforts to their respective turbo kits. This does not affect the estimated release dates for the V6 turbo kit.

Regards,

sweet, thats awesome to hear!! thanks terry!

Now we can 'blow em' ALL Chris!!!!"...

Street Flight, eh? They're just down the road...how convenient :p

Well blow me down. I am excited to see what happens. Keep us posted!

Hell, I'm blown over with excitement! (didnt we go through the lame word games already ) **Praying** God, please let $8000 fall into my lap as I sit here.... -Nick

Thats excellent

I so wish that guy who won the $10k jackport in Casino Niagara the other night was me! I mean, I was right there playing that machine then ran out of token; then BOOM! JACKPOT! Except it wasn't me!

heck 10k is nothing compared to the 20 year old kid that won 85 million last month here in michigan!!!!

Terry now that your involved, can you give us quote on installation of a turbo on a stock motor? Also a clutch, flywheel, quaife and maybe your bull dogg box with zetec gears if need be, all installed? I guessing 7K? Would that cover it? Thank you!

Hey Terry - as a side note, I just wanted to thank you for bringing this option back out for us Zetec guys

thanks chris and terry.

You are welcome.Between Chris, 'Street Flight' & myself we hope to throw more options and ideas out there and give greater choices of kits & applications.....

This is just the beginning. This kit will be the start of massive power. We hope to be able to tell exactly how much boost this engine will handle past the 10PSI mark. After that, it's beefy internals for 20+ PSI. Maybe a compressor upgrade at that point. We will find out soon enough.

This kit WILL be upgradable.

-Chris

with good tuning the stock zetec will handle 20psi

with mods you should be able to go much higher

tom

Tom, this is actually concerning kits for both the Zetec and Duratec.

hey i just wanted to say that i love all you guys, this freakin turbo kit is the ****. i love burning civics as it is especially si's , but now with a turbo kit pushing maybe 300whp, hondas will melt under my wheels!! thank you chris, and terry, and THM, and StreetFlight you guys are the most awesome men on the earth right now, i will be the first one to buy you biggest horsepower producing kit , just let me now when its available and im all on it!!

'95 tour LX, ZETEC
KKM, Neon lights everywhere
Ractive muffler,
Mille Miglia MM11-2's w/ 215/45/16s
H&Rs (soon to be GCs with Konis)
Valve cover exhaust filter
pioneer deh-p8000r
2 JL 12"W3s
2200 US Acoustics amp
soon to come: HELLA TURBO
FocusSport headers w/ high flow cat and all new exhaust, and the new gFX kit if they ever make one for the pre 98s

Hey, Clarke; this is off-topic, but what rank are you?

I am a Lance Corporal, but i go on a meritorious board here soon, so hopefully soon i will be getting that big Corporals pay!!

Chris and Terry,
First, FANTASTIC work on the new turbo. The Contour community owes you much respect!......This month's issue of "TURBO and HI-PER" has an Alamo Autosports turbo Focus. Not that turbos for the Focus are anything new. What caught my eye was the level of detail that was given to stregthening the motors internals. Has anyone talk to people at JE, Crowler, Crane...etc, etc...about beefing up th 2.5 or 3.0L for high boost/abuse. If a modified 2.3L 4 cyl Zetec can make 367 WHP with a turbo, what do you think the chances are of pushing the 400 mark with the Duratec?

400 is very possible BUT the internals do need mods BUT again you have to realise the costs for engine teardowns and rebuilds with uprated components.This is not cheap and not a '2 hr install' re rods,bearings etc etc...regards TH

Any dyno's on the duratec yet?

I have spoken to the above companies:
Crower's stroker kit for the Zetec $4900
JE and Crane never got back to me after repeated emails

OhSigmaChi - you have a PM

How come I haven't seen any pics of this turbo kit? Where can I find them?

Ralph, it is still under development. "Spy Photos" will be released, soon. Have you sent your deposit in?

Can someone e-mail me when the Duratech kit is finished-fancy kicking some BMW M3 ass!!!Thanks.....

Doh,so excited forgot my email address

davelinney@connectfree.co.uk

Thanks

Awesome, turbo for the contour, they need to release more mods for it, im looking to put a svt body kit on my se, any comments or tips? i need the cheapest one, or different then the svt,/

98 Contour, SE
Dark green
2.5 v6, 24 valve, something tells me you already knew that

Erebuni sells a body kit for the 'tour. Not as agressive looking as the SVT, but it is different, and I have yet to see one on the street. Kind of pricey, though. $724.
Check SP Motorsports for pics

yeah because its ugly!

I'd have to agree with you, but everybody has diiferent tastes.

ok so what's up with the turbo now with HMS' recent "announcement"??

HMS is still working with us. Probably even more close, now. Once Terry officially announces the direction he is taking, it will be more clear.

All lights are still green on this project. We could still use more deposits though

where do you send a deposit for a Zetec kit, THM os Chris?

I'm wondering about the Zetec kit as well Chris. I'd still like one but I have my doubts if it will see production. I hope it does though.

Chris do you know if Terry got the decomp gaskets made, I haven't been keeping up recenty so I don't know whats happening zetec wise?

Good luck on the buisness mate, nice website. Do those rear strut braces fit the Mondeo hatchback btw?

Cheers Studly.

*drool*

can't wait for this one

No news is bad news...

Actually, "no news" in my book means "no news".

Everything is still fine.

Italics and bold added for emphasis.

Truer words never written.

As I have said, anything from Demon Dynamics for the Zetec can be had from us,STILL and dispite the changes 'at the helm' of DD....TH

I have a 98 Escort ZX2(80,000miles). I'd like to add a turbo to the car this winter Should I get a different engine or is this one ok? also could you email me some info on the turbo kits (price what they include and any other useful info,such as what each item does, would be helpful because I don't know much about turbos)

Thanks,
Dave
dave_ehlers@hotmail.com

From what I understand installing a turbo on a high mileage engine is not a wise thing to do. If you have a problem and do not know of it the turbo will make it 10 times worse and motor will ultimately fail. Terry could answer better than I though.

A ZX2 with that many miles would benefit from Terry's higher stage kits that get a block rebuild. You get a turbo AND a refreshed block at the same time!

Or you can do like me and have Terry rebuild your Zetec and replace like everything, and then install the TURBO!!!!!

Im goin to be flying when its all said and done!! I cant wait!

This whole thing sounds like it going along pretty well!! The one thing I was wondering "And mabybe I missed it" Do you "Chris,Terry,and Street Fighter" Plan to use a copper head gasket with this set up. With even the stock compresion being high I can only imagine the compresion of 2.5 durtech with a 10 Psi Turbo??????

What's wrong with runing a turbo at 10psi on engine with 9.7-10.25CR?

They do seem to hold up fine to the S/C (only if the s/c did)

BTW - the turbo will be intercooled It should be easier on the engine by forcing in cooler air.

Also PSI level means very little. It's the cfm flow that get's you!

Well Demon I am pretty sure i heard people say that they did have problems with the head gaskets in the Super charger applications, No to metion this is a valid quetion, no need for you normal critassim

Head gaskets are fine. 9PSI with no intercooler on the Vortech kit doesn't blow them. Some engines are more prone to head gasket failures.
*cough* NEON! *cough*

the reason demonsvt critisizes is because he is a miserableand fustrated loser.he thinks he's mr.contour and has something to type all the time.look if your girl or boyfriend is cheating on you dont take it out on people who have questions i know you wouldnt do it to there face tough typer.

I havent heard anyone have a head gasket problem, then again if the SC would stay on the cars long enough you never know what might happen

That is one thing I would watch very carefully! Pressurized Fords are notorious for it.

If you guys knew Half of what Demon knew you wouldnt be sticking your foot in your mouth. No need for Normal Critassim huh, Hahahahahaha Learn to spell Moron. This is an open site for everyone and they can say what they want when they want to STFU. Plus you guys havent even been here a whole 6 months yet but you guys seem to know everything about everything. Do a search and see what you come up with.

True True!!!

despite the fact that demon was a complete ass to me when i first joined ceg, i gotta say he knows his ****.. and that was bare bones critisicm.. dont get your panties in a bunch

He'ssssssss Baaaacccckkkkkkk....

(In reference to SVT KRiS)

Hey,

I own an Escape and on the Escape site you said the turbo would work with a Kenne Bell supercharger. Is this still posible? Have you even thought about the Escapes yet?

The turbo will work in place of the Kenne Bell supercharger.

As for putting it on an Escape, it is on one of our next vehicles to develop. The only thing that concerns us is the plastic intake manifold. Maybe we could just use the Mondeo ST220 UIM on the Escape and the Mazda6.

I would'nt worry to much about the plastic intake. They have been used on turbocharged engine for over 1 year now, and I dont beleive there has ever been a failure of the intake manifold yet.

They seem to have some plastic bits on the Vortech kit's intake. I believe they are the only parts that don't break

TB

The plastic part we are concerned with is the sonic/friction "welds" that hold the two pieces together. I can see a boost leak there. If it was monocoque I wouldn't be concerned. Seams can be scary

Oh, and Tony, the Vortech's plastic piece doesn't get boost. It is on the intake side of the compressor.

Thanks,

I couldn't remember which end if the compressor it was on. I remember seeing it, remember being amazed about some plastic bits in there, but couldn't remember if it was the suck or the blow part of the blower

TB

Chris I would not worry about the plastic. If the manifold will hold vac then it will hold pressure. I'm not saying it would hold 1,000 lbs. but then you arent going to put anywhere near enough pressure on it to burst. You would be surprized at how much pressure it would take to make it fail.

I am just talking crap here, but...
I am pretty sure that the manifold is designed for vacuum. Probably something like .75atm max. 1 atm=16psi??? so there is 4psi maximum pushing in normally. When you add the turbo you will have ~6-8psi or more (chris?) above the 1 atm so there will be atleast 6psi pushing out, plus the air temperature will be much hotter. This just seems bad to me.

Maybe we'll just snag one from a junkyard, heat it up, and apply some pressure to it until it pops. We'll see.

wazzat supposed to mean?

IT'S ALIVE!!!!

More info and new pics to come soon!!!

this is great

yipee

It could be scary Chris. You sure you are up to the critics once you release the pics??

But show the pics!! I'm as anxious as everyone and applaud your efforts. But respond to your naysayers, please.

Naysayers? Who is saying "Nay?" The component design is finished. It's simply a matter of tuning. Just a little longer

Sign up for the national meet, you might see it in person.

I can't promise that, but why not meet the man who is making it possible.

TB
Wants Boost.

let's see some mpegs! >mouth waters with anticipation of hearing an angry duratech snorting through an open element and blowing the excess boost out the bov, making that sweet hiss the whole time!<

how about lowering the price to 2 grand and then selling alot of them instead of a few for 4500.
just a thought
peace

That is one GREAT thought.............

for 2gs.. i'd be in for sure... money would be in the way next week.

Yeah like there is a ton of markup to begin with. Get real.

$2000 won't get you much more than an intercooler kit. maybee an intercooler kit and a water spray system for the cooler......

Turbo kits (properly engineered kits that is) for any vehicle will set you back around $4000.... so $4500 is not an unreasonable price. Look at the flyin miata turbo kits for example... these are great kits and they cost around $4000. www.dlralt.com

But like they mentioned, the markup is ridiculous, why not make them cheaper and sell more. I am sure you would make more $$ off of 100 rather than 50. Even if they dropped it 2k they would still be making their profit.

All you armchair tuners that think you can offer a quality turbo kit for next to nothing need to get in business and offer said kit. Then hurry up and get back out of business when you realize the financial realities of a real turbo, IC, custom exhaust manifold, EEC, dyno time, etc.

If Chris needed advice on pricing, he would have asked.

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How do you know they would still be making a profit? Perhaps they might cover parts costs. But how much $$$ is investing in the shop that's doing the engineering. Those people who are doing the calculations, measurements and tuning are not free. They have to be paid as well. The electricity, water and whatnot for that shop costs money as well.

Then there will be those who call up with questions after purchasing the kit, after sales support. That has to cost something as well.

Profit is not illegal, nor immoral. In fact, profit is necessary for our economy to grow. Unless you work for some hospital, university or government, your employer better turn a profit, or you will be out of a job.

If the price is wrong, no one will buy it. But I believe if the kit is very well engineered, people will pay.

But as others have said, if you think it can be done for less than $2K, then get to it, get your kit to market. Otherwise, I politely ask you to reserve judgement or provide some actual proof that this kit can be engineered and delivered to the user for 2K, then by all means, show your work.

Thanks for reading my rant.

TB
Come to the National Meet, perhaps you will see the results there.

Take a look at what you get with those "$2000" kits. If all you want is a cast iron exhaust manifold, an old style turbo, and a pipe, sure! Believe me, $2000 wouldn't come close to covering the cost of the kit for us. We are making MINIMAL profit as I have stated in the past. The profit is just enough to make it worthwhile to the manufacturer.

And yes, Tony, you are correct. The Development vehicle will be at the National Meet in full force.

I assume you have a job right? I assume you get paid to do that job right? Would you be willing to put in 80 hours of work for free?

Not saying there is not some "markup" or that some kits are overpriced, just that I have never seen what I call a quality kit for less than $4000 for any non turbo vehicle. Quality kits have a lot more time on the back end than cheap thrown together ones. Time costs money. If you have ever driven a turbo conversion that was a not-so-good kit you would understand my point. I had a turbo miata that had one of the original BEGI kits complete with intercooler and the drivability sucked ars. Those same kits are still available for around $3000, but the good kits that include a programable ecu replacements, larger injectors, quality BOV etc etc cost around $4000-$4500.

So... All I'm saying I guess is you usually get what you pay for.

Are you planning on any runs down the tracks? (1/4 or auto x) I will be there so PLEASE convince my WIFE to buy the kit .
Good Luck with your project and convincing my wife.
C-ya there

For sure, dyno. Quite possibly drag race. But no autocross.

Hello Saturn K1.....
You are an idiot beyond belief. Shut the hell up and become educated. Jackasss

That is one way to make your first post

He's been lurking for a while. I guess when you are going to jump in, make a big splash.

Welcome to the forums

TB

LMAO

I like 'em already...

IF you can convince Outlawds wife ill get one tooo:)

So Chris about two weeks ago you said that in one or two weeks you will have dyno graphs to show us. what happened??

These things always take a little longer than expected. Especially when you're trying to do it right. But hopefully more pics and numbers soon! We're all on the edge of our seats...

Just a quick bit of info, we just made more than the average HP that the Vortech puts out with only 5.5PSI. We have a ways to go for tuning as well. The numbers just get better and better on our way to our target PSI of 8-9.

Needless to say, the entire package (car and turbo kit) is making a suprising amount of power for what little work it appears to be taking.

More info as we make it.

quick question for chris: about how much should we expect to pay a shop to have your kit installed

Thanks, Brian

Chris, I'm going to be in Mesa August 8-15. Will the car still be around there? Can't wait to get mine!!!

wont we only be able to use 5 psi anyways without voiding the warranty? i think that was stated somewhere.

nothing new to add...JUST WANTED TO BE #100 !!!!!

-aND START PAGE FIVE!!!

EDIT:Since this is Chris's thread, I will keep my mouth shut about a$$holes like this.

Since its putting out 5.5 psi chris is there anyway you can tell us or show us any pics or dyno plots. I heard Demon seen some pics or something. Just wondering if I have missed something.

can we still sign up? i am waiting for my enlistment bonus to pay for this thing so i would appreciate a cutoff date

I'm very interested in a turbo for a Zetec.

Are they available yet? I see guys talking about them on the Zetec forum like they are out there in use, but when I searched I couldn't find anything about it being for sale yet.

I want more power and the turbo seems like the way to go. I've got almost 66,000 miles now and lots more on the way - will my car even handle the PSI?

You will totally void your warrenty on all the engine/ exhaust parts if you put a turbo on it. Ford might give you grace and have you keep the warrenty on the A/C but that's probably the only thing.

Basically they would ask "What broke this part?" and if it's because of the "non-Ford approved" turbo, then they aint going to fix it.

I think he was referring to the warranty from Street Flight. Once we find out our boost range, we will decide what is "safe" for the kit. If someone wants to have it lower, that's fine. Higher, and the warranty is void.

Oh, and yes, this turbo kit blows away any kind of warranty on moving parts from Ford :p

Well thats the straw that broke the camels back! I'm out! LOL!!!

Oh do I wish I was in!

-Andy

Chris, how about another tasty sample pic? Maybe a recent dyno chart??

So when will this kit be available???

Now that we where pushed back a month or so due to a supplier, I would say around late July to mid-August.

but i want it NOW!!

Pics??? Where???

Chris I may be gettin a T/C from you know that I am gettin an SVT, but I think I will T/C smoothy first... good job my man!!