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Posted By: zetecpower Will these injectors fit? - 05/25/06 07:05 AM
hey guys i have 1996 GL and im woundering if these injectors would fit on my engine?

INJECTORS 42LB INJECTORS
Posted By: 1ofakindtour Re: Will these injectors fit? - 05/25/06 12:58 PM
And why would you need them, planning on running a turbo?
Posted By: ButtonPuncher_dup1 Re: Will these injectors fit? - 05/25/06 09:50 PM
Yep! They drop right in.

Please keep in mind that you have to re-program your PCM or get a chip in order to use them.

You stock PCM would freak out with over double the fuel that it's used to.

BP
Posted By: zetecpower Re: Will these injectors fit? - 05/26/06 08:28 AM
No im not planning on getting a turbo, i was hoping they will give me more HP for the good price. I heard that they will give off good power.
what you guys think how many HP's am i looking at here?
Posted By: Seawulf_dup1 Re: Will these injectors fit? - 05/26/06 09:31 AM
If you just plug those injectors in, with a stock MAF, the car will not start. It wil be too rich.

Unless you plan on doubling stock HP, they won't do anything. I know, cause I have some.
Posted By: zetecpower Re: Will these injectors fit? - 05/26/06 06:57 PM
so what would you recomend for me to do after i install those injectors?
get new MAF? anythign else?
Posted By: BrApple_dup1 Re: Will these injectors fit? - 05/26/06 07:24 PM
Originally posted by zetecpower:
so what would you recomend for me to do after i install those injectors?
get new MAF? anythign else?





they are recomending that you do not install those injectors. there is no need for them unless you have high horsepower plans with a power adder. you will need to have the computer tuned to run with those injectors

more fuel, ie getting closer to a 10 to 1 A/F dosen't make more power, being stoich, or close to 14.7 to 1 is where the power is, otherwise you are just wasting fuel


fyi, every duratec at SZ 05 on the dyno went way rich on the top end, after they all got a tune the A/F was sitting at about 12 to 1 across the board, hence they were making more power to boot


remember to much fuel and not enough air or to much air and not enough fuel will cause a fire to burn out, same goes for a combustion engine
Posted By: zetecpower Re: Will these injectors fit? - 05/26/06 07:34 PM
yeah i understand what you saying.
im just looking into getting more HP out of my zetec possibly maybe 20 hp more than it is right now 130hp i belive. what you think i should do to make these changes
Posted By: striker2 Re: Will these injectors fit? - 05/26/06 07:53 PM
if your only looking for about 200 more hp then do an intake, exhaust, and a chip, maybe even an underdrive pulley and cam gears.
Posted By: Stazi Re: Will these injectors fit? - 05/26/06 07:57 PM
Originally posted by zetecpower:
No im not planning on getting a turbo, i was hoping they will give me more HP for the good price. I heard that they will give off good power.
what you guys think how many HP's am i looking at here?





You heard WRONG - -just buying thwoing in injectors than are 4 times the size of what you have now will do nothing but make it run like ass - if it even runs at all - whoever told you such nonsense is an idiot. Using that thinking I should just insert the hose of a gas pump to my airbox and get 150hp right there. Jesus some of you guys are clueless - research people, RESEARCH!!!
Posted By: ButtonPuncher_dup1 Re: Will these injectors fit? - 05/27/06 07:36 PM
Originally posted by zetecpower:
yeah i understand what you saying.
im just looking into getting more HP out of my zetec possibly maybe 20 hp more than it is right now 130hp i belive. what you think i should do to make these changes




Ok, here's what you do. Because you have a Pre-98, get an adjustable Fuel Pressure Regulator. If and when you start running lean from mods, you can bump your fuel pressure to compensate. You can get an Aeromotive 13102 fuel pressure regulator for $110. It takes all of 15 minutes to install.

You will need to do a TON of mods to go past the stock injectors limits. We are talking FRPP cylinder head, stage 3 cams, FRPP intake manifold, and ZXtuner header.

Like Stazi said, bigger injectors won't give you any more power over stock. They will actually hurt your performance if you don't have a chip.

HTH,
BP
Posted By: zetecpower Re: Will these injectors fit? - 05/27/06 08:27 PM
hey thanks alot. so basically if i get the FPR then ill be able to boost it up a little? and when my car begins to run lean ill be able to adjust teh fule pressure on FPR? right?
by it self how much boost am i looking at with only FPR
Posted By: ButtonPuncher_dup1 Re: Will these injectors fit? - 05/27/06 09:00 PM
You won't gain any power with the FPR.

The FPR will let you add more fuel when you get into a lean situation on the top end after a bunch of mods. You can safely get 20-30% more out of your injectors. If you turn your fuel pressure up too high, the injectors will drip which really screw up your idle. (There is soo much pressure that they can't stay closed.)

You can make your stock 16lb/hr injectors work like 21lb/hr injectors. Check out this page to see what I mean.

HTH,
BP
Posted By: BrApple_dup1 Re: Will these injectors fit? - 05/28/06 12:11 AM
lets cut to the chase, you don't know what you are doing or talking about so do not go an do any mods to your car, please do some research first and find out what you can and can't do. then choose what you want to do with your car.

Just stick to the intake and exhaust on your zetec, it isn't worth doing much more unless you have the money to do it all and do it correctly and want a contour zetec as a project car, hell it would be alot of fun with a well built engine and a tubro

basically there is nothing cheap that you can do to net you alot of power, so stop asking stupid questions about using things that you don't need to make power ...


edit: btw the people here are giving you good suggestions as to things you would do if you mod for alot of power, but they are not things that you need at the moment ...
Posted By: Stazi Re: Will these injectors fit? - 05/30/06 01:47 PM
For the record I have YET to see ONE Contour run lean - from the factory, even with mods. Most the time they run pig rich so you don't need to be randomnly adding fuel without knowing what the AFR is for starters.

Case in point I tuned 3 SVT's at SZ All 3 ran at about 11.5:1 at WOT, after leaning them out to 13:1 (all 3 were using S-AFC's) the averagre gain in hp was about 9hp!
Posted By: percybigun_dup1 Re: Will these injectors fit? - 05/30/06 04:53 PM
my mondeo 2.0 zetec run VERY lean when it had CTA intake, powerflow exhaust, 60mm TB, stage 2 cams and 4-2-1 header with no custom tune.

and you will find those injectors on focus CFM will not fit the pre-98 zetecs anyway.
Posted By: ButtonPuncher_dup1 Re: Will these injectors fit? - 05/31/06 12:20 AM
Originally posted by percybigun:
and you will find those injectors on focus CFM will not fit the pre-98 zetecs anyway.




How so? The FRPP 42# injectors that I bought were a direct swap. Same body, connector, and impedance. I have a '96.

Do the pre-98 Mondeos have a different fuel rail or connectors?

BP
Posted By: Loco4G63 Re: Will these injectors fit? - 05/31/06 12:53 AM
Originally posted by Stazi:
For the record I have YET to see ONE Contour run lean - from the factory, even with mods. Most the time they run pig rich so you don't need to be randomnly adding fuel without knowing what the AFR is for starters.

Case in point I tuned 3 SVT's at SZ All 3 ran at about 11.5:1 at WOT, after leaning them out to 13:1 (all 3 were using S-AFC's) the averagre gain in hp was about 9hp!


You've never modded a Zetec?

Even with mild mods/no mods the Zetec will run around 12.5:1- 12:1 A/F.

Duratecs on the other hand....
Posted By: ButtonPuncher_dup1 Re: Will these injectors fit? - 06/01/06 10:13 AM
That is very true. Those 16lb injectors are soo freakin' small! I need to get and AFR guage sooner than later.

BP
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