Who is this Boosted CSVT driver ?

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http://www.clubgp.com/newforum/tm.asp?m=2452848&p=1&tmode=1&smode=1

He's trolling around the clubgp racing forums saying he's got some kind of nicely modded C-SVT. Anyone know what he's really running ? He claims he runs 12's and doesn't suffer from the same traction problems that every other turboed Duratec does.

Tim

sounds to me like the svt guy didn't have a turbo at all ...because i would bet that many of the turbo'd cars on here would own,or at least hang with that gtp from a roll

the guy did make some ricer excuses,that's why i suspect he may not have had a turbo,but who knows...

The guy's first mistake was talking [censored]....like most people.

Only a few people can really talk [censored] and back it up, and there is almost always someone better or some circumstance that will make you look like an azz.

Second mistake was trolling and then making the rest of us look like dumb azzed ricers to a bunch of connestoga Pontiacs...errr Plastiacs.
WoW

There are some serious SVT's with nitrous that would destroy any car that his low boosted turbo could hang with, not to mention some of the big turbo'd cars. I wouldn't have expected that the SVT hang with him at all unless he was producing some boost.
Any real drivers with real cars live anywhere close to these guys so we can get some honor back?

You know I say if you're going to loose then loose well....

Those GTP's are pretty quick. Not a car to under-estimate. My boosted CSVT got walked by one a while back, but now I think I'd be able to take one, or at least hang really well.

Robert

With a mouth like his, I'm thinking he probably bought someone else's modded SVT (maybe a 3.0L conversion?), is running a lot of nitrous and claiming boost, or paid someone to throw on a Vortech. That GTP he raced, tuned with his latest mods, would probably put down about 270 fwhp, 360 fwtq by my crappy estimates.

I'm no contour expert, but his facts don't seem right. He's got to be running *something*, though, to hang with a cammed GTP that can run 12's, from a holeshot. I have a lot of respect for the nicely modded cars that are on here (like Warmonger's, Suneil's, Demon's N/A 3.0L, beyondloaded, wavrdr) and it's very dissapointing to see someone go onto another board (especially one as big as clubgp) like that and turn the turbo SVT into rice-o-roni.

Here's a thread I dug up where he was talking a little about what he's running:

http://www.clubgp.com/newforum/tm.asp?m=29&p=1&mpage=10&tmode=1&smode=1&key=&language=

Originally posted by Tim:

And to top it off, to this day I don't think any of the 350+fwhp big boys have even hit the 12s mark yet. Maybe one of these days ADC will stop making Turbos and start making AWD kits .

Funny that this thread was revived ,
Tim

Originally posted by ChubbyBroccoliSVT:

For one, I make more power than ANY turbo Tour to date (lot more than 350whp) Second, 12's were met a LONG time ago.

Sorry for the rag on ADC, but it's true

Tim

He mentions traction control... I didn't think any CSVT's had the traction control option.

I wish he would stop giving SVT owners a bad name. I hope someone puts him in his place again.

Originally posted by Big_B:
He mentions traction control... I didn't think any CSVT's had the traction control option.

There is I think 2 have got away with from the factory to date that have been proven. But you can always install an aftermarket one.

Originally posted by LoganB:

Originally posted by Big_B:
He mentions traction control... I didn't think any CSVT's had the traction control option.

There is I think 2 have got away with from the factory to date that have been proven. But you can always install an aftermarket one.

I think I remember reading something about this a while back. Someone (I think it was Demon) tried to do something with traction control on an SVT and it wouldn't work.

Originally posted by Big_B:

Originally posted by LoganB:

Originally posted by Big_B:
He mentions traction control... I didn't think any CSVT's had the traction control option.

There is I think 2 have got away with from the factory to date that have been proven. But you can always install an aftermarket one.

I think I remember reading something about this a while back. Someone (I think it was Demon) tried to do something with traction control on an SVT and it wouldn't work.

really hmm I always thought you could install an aftermarket one. Oh well I will let Demon or someone else chime in with some answers.

Originally posted by Big_B:
He mentions traction control... I didn't think any CSVT's had the traction control option.

It was a picture that somebody sent to me awhile ago.

there are 2 i know of that came from the factory with traction controle....one is CAWONG...the other i'm not sure.

so he claimes to be running a non-duratech 3.0, and a trans other than the mtx-75

So he's running a 3.0L from a Taurus but not a Duratec. I guess he would have us believe that he shoehorned the 3.0L SHO engine into his engine bay and turbo'ed it. I guess that's believable. If he's running all of that, stretching the engine bay a few inches on all sides isn't going that far out there.

That would also make sense why his IC malfunctioned (not enough room to clamp down the hoses!) I think there was a turbo first gen SHO owner on clubgp that called him out, too. Would like to see that race..

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Tim

The guys full of [censored]. Mummy dropped him on his head when he was a baby...he's obviously never recovered, plain and simple!

The funny thing is that from a roll is where I'd give a turbo SVT or even a Vortech'd SVT the nod. Off the line the traction is hard to get but from a roll the car can be devastating. I could chase down a supercharged M3, a 395 wHP lightning, a mid 90's corvette; but off a line I could only hang with the M3.
No offense to the Supercharged GTP guys but your motors rely on low end torque whereas the SVT duratec relys on high revs. This shows up in third gear more than anywhere else.
Whatever, this guy makes us look bad but we're not all like that. The SVT is a good car. The GTP is a good car. They both have their strengths and weaknesses and thank god neither is a WRX or a Civic!

GTP's can have a mean rollpunch if they can catch their first gear in the peak torque rpm range. My car, lightly modified, probably makes about 270 torque at the wheels right about 3000rpm, which is around where a downshift to first will stick our cars at 40mph with our tall gearing (assuming aftermarket PCM). With syP's mods he's got significantly more torque than that at around that range, so that's a good reason why GTP's can be mean from a dig and a roll. All that torque makes horsepower.

All the same you guys have really nice power above the curve and must have some crazy topend! Every SVT graph I've seen just keeps building more and more power until it crashes into the limiter. That's technology for you. Good old GM just likes to make a lopey cam and give us all of that power midrange right where the average American plants his foot

I've never seen a turbo CSVT run on the highway and would like to. That's where all those damn valves and cams you guys have shoeboxed into that engine really steals the show.

Tim

Yeah. I really hated those GTPs back when I was in Tucson before I turbo'd my car. Them fuggers would trawl around town looking for victims and just when you think "hey, that car looks big and that fat dude in the drivers seat can't be helping any", he unleashes an ass whooping from hell.

Sadly no N/A 3L SVT could hang with a GTP from a roll below 50mph either. On the other hand around 50+mph a 3L would have fun with a stock GTP and probably pull it on the highway above 100mph.
Perfect example, my first run-in with a GTP was a guy with 3 dudes in the car (4 total) and he was eggin me on. I launched in my car and I thought I was going to smoke him. I barely took him at around 90+mph. Below that he was outrunning me, and that was a completely stock GTP.

i really dont like GTPs at all. they dont look very fun to drive even if they are fast.

It depends on your definition of fun. I've driven a CSVT before, and what made it fun to drive was the stance of the car, the feel of the steering wheel, the smooth-as-silk shifting, its linear power, and uncanny cornering ability. It was a car made for the driver, even though it was a Sedan. It had a lot of feedback, but in no way was it an F1 car.

But hell I'm from Texas. There's not a lot of European in me. I grew up watching stock car racing and driving around in, as war' put it, "Conestoga's"

I like my cars like I like my women (big, black, and loud). OK, maybe that wasn't a good analogy

I said I was from Texas!

BTW, Warmonger, whatever happened to you bringing that CSVT of yours down to Ennis. You still living out there in BFE ?

Tim