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Posted By: svt1999 replaced mafs and it dident fix the problem - 12/11/05 02:28 AM
ok well i replaced the mafs and it dident work i went and got the cel codes and they were p0300 p0303 p306 p0174 p0396 p0171 i checked it twice the first time was the first 3 the second time was the second 3
You know that you don't get multiple cylinder misfire codes from a maf right?

How are your plugs and wires? Probably have carbon tracking like the last 6 cars I diagnosed at my shop for misfires. If that is the case you HAVE to change the plugs AND wires.

The O2 codes will most likely be a result of the misfire, but the 396 code (maybe coil driver??? dunno)I don't know off the top of my head like the others so you might want to search on that one.

I have also run into a fair amount of coil problems, if those coils are opposite each other which I think they are you may have a bad coil. I would just take the front cover off and the imrc (just let it dangle) and with it running pull each of the 3 front plug wires off (one at a time only) about 1" or so away from the plug (enough to hear the snaping sound of the spark) then put it back. if one or more is dead on the front 3 then odds are you have a bad coil pack (replace the coil pack). If all 3 test ok then this means you probably have the earlier mentioned problem so replace all plugs and wires.

There are other possibilities but thats the most common that I run into on a day to day basis.
i just got my car back from the shop and they told me i had to replace the maf i dident have them do it because they were going to charge me 280 for it and it only cost me 100 to do it myself after i replaced it my cel was still comeing on so i went to autozone and checked it and thats what i got
oh ya and when the car was in the shop they replaced the sparkplugs and wires as well as some gaskets
I think he means the OEL's
Originally posted by svt1999:
i just got my car back from the shop and they told me i had to replace the maf i dident have them do it because they were going to charge me 280 for it and it only cost me 100 to do it myself after i replaced it my cel was still comeing on so i went to autozone and checked it and thats what i got


svt1999,

Just my opinion- I'm not very big on a great deal of after market, read - big box store's, parts. I wrench for a living and I've been hosed over, even by NAPA. And I've trusted their parts for 35 years.
Originally posted by svt1999:
i just got my car back from the shop and they told me i had to replace the maf i dident have them do it because they were going to charge me 280 for it and it only cost me 100 to do it myself after i replaced it my cel was still comeing on so i went to autozone and checked it and thats what i got




Ok..... Did you do the quick coil test I mentioned in my previous post yet????
If you were located close to me I would do a complete test for you for free but.....
The more info we know the easier it will be to pin point.
wont be able to do it untill thursday but i will post when i finish
A MAF isn't going to to cure those codes! You have a lot going on. Don't take your car back to that shop! Have you had into a dealer yet. I hate all shops but dealers are a little less likely to hose you then mom & pop shops and have better techs....sometimes.
The cheap and easy is clean the MAF. If that doesn't fix it then go on a search and destroy for vacuum leaks.
i did the coil test i had an extra 10 min this morning to do it but they all checked out fine and the shop that i just had my car fixed at said they replaced sparkplugs and wires it was at elk grove ford in california dont know if anyone has had problems with them but i have so far i had to take my car there 2 time just to get my transmition fixed and the second time they messed up my alignement and they were supose to have fixed this problem as well but everytime i go there i get ass ramed with charges for stupid [censored]
well i tested it and they all worked so should i replace wires and spark plugs or is there a way i can test them first
the light also only blinks when accelerating on freeway whn around 60mph it dosent blink when driving around town but there is noticable powerloss once i get to 3rd gear i dont really have any problems at low speeds
Why, after I said NOT to plop down money on a MAF, did you do it, anyway?


well i shouldent have but i did the dude at the auto shop said thats was all that was left to fix the problem and it wasent so sucks for me but now can u help me fix my problem
Originally posted by svt1999:
well i shouldent have but i did the dude at the auto shop said thats was all that was left to fix the problem and it wasent so sucks for me but now can u help me fix my problem




Wow... good for you... I'm sure that won't fix anything.
thats Fu(Ked


well i shouldent have but i did and the dude at the auto shop said thats was all that was left to fix the problem and it wasent so sucks for me but now can u help me fix my problem
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Were the spark plugs Autolites? (The Contours are finicky with the spark plugs). Were the gaps 0.054 inch? (they are more finicky with the gaps).
5 of them look fine but #6 is gone looks like the tip got blown off im going to replace it tonight or tomarrow see if it fixes the problem
replaced spark plugs and so far no problem
Originally posted by svt1999:
replaced spark plugs and so far no problem



No problem like in is it running?
it runs and so far no blinking of cel i havent ran it hard yet tho
If all's well, that damaged #6 plug was it.
well all is good it was just the #6 plug thanks for all the help
all this for a stupid spark plug

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Why would it be like this anyways?
Need more photo resolution, but that gap is ridiculous!
its all i had camera phone
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