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I have a Full wilwood kit on all 4 corners. They are expensive though but WELL worth it over the NPG one that still uses the factory calipers.
 
starjammir said:
I have a Full wilwood kit on all 4 corners. They are expensive though but WELL worth it over the NPG one that still uses the factory calipers.
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Ok Ok. where are you pictures located? you have a album profile but no pictures! :(

I want to do a Baer or WW kit in front then a FSVT front brake setup in back!
I think that would be 330mm 300mm

something like that
 
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Rear kit:
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Only a fraction smaller then the fronts. I had a VERY hard time figuring out which was the front rotor and which was the rear when I first got the kit.
 
DocStruthers said:
Ok Ok. where are you pictures located? you have a album profile but no pictures! :(

I want to do a Baer or WW kit in front then a FSVT front brake setup in back!
I think that would be 330mm 300mm

something like that
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I say do it up man. Nothing wrong with having this combo at all. I like my wilwood rear kit though especially with the two piece rotor combo.
Here is the Wilwood kits:http://www.tceperformanceproducts.com/cgi-bin/brakes/cginews.pl?record=7
Awesome guy to deal with though. I got my kit used though but he helped me figure out what lines...etc I needed for it though.
 
wow that is expensive.

I have been on Wilwood's site for about 2 hours looking up parts to create my own kit.

It would be cheaper to do it yourself with 4 piston front and smaller pad area utilizing 4 piston rear. WITH two piece rotors.

Just need lines and such which won't be hard to find. Plus brackets which might be hard but my main challenge is getting all the measurements I need. I need to just take the wheel off front and back one day and measure EVERYTHING 3 times. Document it all! Take photos! Etc. Etc.

:)

Wilwoods site has EXCELLENT pricing in my opinion. MUCH better then Brembo. Brembo is to proud for me! haha $$$$$$
 
I understand not everyone has the same budget. That's true of any purchase.

$12-1300 by today's standards is really a pretty darn good deal. The most popular sales today for cars like the Charger, or Lightning, many using the newer W6a caliper all run in the $2k-2200 range and are (in their markets) considered the best bargains for brakes available. I'd confess that the Contour kit is not one of the more 'high tech' designs I've done but it was built for value and simplicity. We could have done beefier rotors and radial mount calipers....only so you could pay more and have limited wheel choices. Doesn't sound like a good plan to me.

Where things get cloudy is when one spends too much time in the Summit catalog trying to reproduce something for less. Sure, you can find Dynalite calipers for $125ea and some rotors for as low as $49. Buy some pads for $50 and you're well on your way to a full on BBK for under $500! But...not so fast. Knowing the products a bit I refuse to use the DL caliper for your application, the rotors are nothing like the $49 ones, you cannot purchase hats that fit rightly, you have no brackets, no fittings and find the ss hose kit you bought won't really work after all. Hmmm. Got a problem or two; who do you call and ask, the Summit salesman? Need help with pads? I'm betting he can't explain from experience what makes one better than the other.

The other thing to consider from my perspective is that if the only true costs were 'hard parts' then I could lop 15% off the price in a heartbeat! But if you've never owned a business you'd soon realize that there's a bit more to it. You could buy a Dell laptop for $175 too if they didn't have a business model. Don't forget the overhead costs of the "brick and mortar" business; rent, phones, inventory, shipping, insurance, employees, repairs, advertising, web work, cc fees......on and on. Not to mention the often asked for "freebies" to give away at a yearly meet. You don't think a four line ss hose kit is free do you?

I have nothing against anyone wishing to build something. That's how a lot of good products get started. Just be sure you have a clear picture of how it works from the business side as well.
 
Todd TCE said:
I understand not everyone has the same budget. That's true of any purchase.

$12-1300 by today's standards is really a pretty darn good deal. The most popular sales today for cars like the Charger, or Lightning, many using the newer W6a caliper all run in the $2k-2200 range and are (in their markets) considered the best bargains for brakes available. I'd confess that the Contour kit is not one of the more 'high tech' designs I've done but it was built for value and simplicity. We could have done beefier rotors and radial mount calipers....only so you could pay more and have limited wheel choices. Doesn't sound like a good plan to me.

Where things get cloudy is when one spends too much time in the Summit catalog trying to reproduce something for less. Sure, you can find Dynalite calipers for $125ea and some rotors for as low as $49. Buy some pads for $50 and you're well on your way to a full on BBK for under $500! But...not so fast. Knowing the products a bit I refuse to use the DL caliper for your application, the rotors are nothing like the $49 ones, you cannot purchase hats that fit rightly, you have no brackets, no fittings and find the ss hose kit you bought won't really work after all. Hmmm. Got a problem or two; who do you call and ask, the Summit salesman? Need help with pads? I'm betting he can't explain from experience what makes one better than the other.

The other thing to consider from my perspective is that if the only true costs were 'hard parts' then I could lop 15% off the price in a heartbeat! But if you've never owned a business you'd soon realize that there's a bit more to it. You could buy a Dell laptop for $175 too if they didn't have a business model. Don't forget the overhead costs of the "brick and mortar" business; rent, phones, inventory, shipping, insurance, employees, repairs, advertising, web work, cc fees......on and on. Not to mention the often asked for "freebies" to give away at a yearly meet. You don't think a four line ss hose kit is free do you?

I have nothing against anyone wishing to build something. That's how a lot of good products get started. Just be sure you have a clear picture of how it works from the business side as well.
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you couldn't have said it better then that!
:wave:
 
Thanks

Thanks

Just wanted to say thank you to all of you for your inciteful responses. NPG will definitely be getting another customer. Being a family man on a budget have to ask about these things. Thanks again :laugh:
 
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