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Engine mounts and ignition coil questions for Duratec

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Brozda1881

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Hey everybody, two quick questions. The engine mounts, is there a difference between SVT and non-SVT mounts?? I would like to fill mine with poly but can't afford to give up my only/daily driver. That way I'll just grab any duratec mount at the J/Y and fill and swap. My second question is about the coil pack, is there an aftermarket one that's preffered by CEGers and is there any performance benefit?? Or should I just get a stock one?? Keep in mind I'm running E3 diamond fire plugs and Ford Racing 9mm wires so the rest of my ignition is up for the job, I think!!
Thanks
PS I tried searching for this info but the only Internet access I have is on my iPhone. And it's hard going through the forums on a ~4 inch screen :(
 
mounts are the same.

aftermarket coils are not any better then stock.

also ditch those plugs you have and get motorcraft or autolite double platinum plugs.
 
They perform like poo.

I have a brand new-ish aftermarket coil pack for sale in the classifieds ;).
 
All right then I guess it's a good thing I didn't put the plugs in yet... :) I bougt them but was waiting to put them in with the coil. I have the motorcraft (Ford) ones in there now. I thought I read on here somewhere that somebody used the E3s and felt a difference?? :shrug:
 
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I would think that some good NGKTR55IX plugs would work well. They have worked well in everything else I own that is NA that specifies that heat range with that particular seating.
 
For plugs use Autolite APP104 double platinums, they rock. E3 plugs are gimicky and worthless, actually like just about everything horsepower TV advertises these days...

As for the coil, no the stocker is just fine. If you are dead set on getting a more powerful ignition just get a crane HI-6 box but that is completely unnecessary unless you are running a blower.

You can buy poly mounts from nautilus performance or there are a few CEGers who do them. You can always go to the JY, just pull the mounts and send them off to get filled.
 
I've always had the idea of if it's broken, replace with a better part!! But if the stock coil is fine then I'll just get that. I'm not trying to build a race car, just a little more umph :)
Thanks for the info guys.
 
Brozda1881 said:
I've always had the idea of if it's broken, replace with a better part!! But if the stock coil is fine then I'll just get that. I'm not trying to build a race car, just a little more umph :)
Thanks for the info guys.
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Problem is there isn't really a better part. MSD has a ton of quality control issues, Crane is very good but if they do make a coil it won't be any better than the stocker. Again, if you need a more powerful ignition for whatever reason (you don't unless you have forced induction and the boost is blowing out the spark at high rpm) you can just wire in an aftermarket ignition box.
 
getsum111 said:
QFT. Everyone I have known that have run other plugs than those have wound up having trouble.
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Well I've been running Bosch Platinum +4's ever since I bought the car and put the replacement SVT motor in and my car has been performing great. :shrug:
 
CSVT#49 said:
Well I've been running Bosch Platinum +4's ever since I bought the car and put the replacement SVT motor in and my car has been performing great. :shrug:
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Double platinum autolites will work just as well and cost much less. The whole +2/+4 thing is a gimmick.
 
ScottyDsntKnow said:
Double platinum autolites will work just as well and cost much less. The whole +2/+4 thing is a gimmick.
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gimmick... I don't think so...

Bosch Review said:
Surrounding the center electrode, which contains 75% more platinum than previous Bosch platinum plugs, are four "surface air gap" ground electrodes made of a special wear-resistant nickel yttrium alloy. The angle and position of the four electrodes creates multiple spark paths that cause the spark to jump sideways. This has a self-cleaning effect on the center electrode and results in a longer, more powerful spark that reduces misfires for improved engine performance, better fuel economy, lower emissions and faster acceleration.

When these spark plugs fire, the spark jumps randomly to any one of the four ground electrodes. It does not jump to all four electrodes at the same time. This spreads the wear across four electrode surfaces instead of one as is the case with a standard single ground electrode spark plug.

Bosch says their tests have shown the new Platinum +4 plugs can improve fuel economy up to 4.8% over other competitive spark plugs. Fouling resistance is also said to be 33% better.

Though Bosch makes no specific mileage claims for their Platinum +4 spark plugs, they do say the plugs meet or exceed OEM requirements for 100,000 mile replacement intervals. Bosch says the plugs show almost no increase in firing voltage requirements after 100,000 miles of operation. Bosch has also run tests where the plugs have gone over 150,000 miles with no appreciable wear, so these would seem to be lifetime plugs for many vehicle applications (unless, of course, the engine is burning oil, in which case fouling might occur).

Another unique feature of the Platinum +4 is that the surface air gap between the center and four ground electrodes is factory present to 1.6 mm and is nonadjustable. No attempt should be made to adjust or change the air gap when the plugs are installed, even if the air gap specification is different from that specified for a standard spark plug. The wider gap of the Platinum +4 is necessary to achieve the advantages above.
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CSVT#49 said:
gimmick... I don't think so...
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first, the spark doesnt jump "randomly" to one of the 4 ground electrodes. rather, it jumps the path of least resistance, which will change over time and wear but its not random.

second, having a larger gap means it takes more energy to actually jump the gap. they claim it will make a "longer, more powerful spark" which while it will be longer due to the increased gap, it will actually be weaker since the voltage output of the coil hasnt changed. now a longer spark does mean less time to the flame front, but the same thing can be achieved by gapping a standard plug farther open. it also has a much higher chance of blowing out the spark on boosted applications.

the only advantage the +4s may offer is going to be wear/lifetime of the plug, but they are about double cost of a standard plug so they still arent worth it.
 
CSVT#49 said:
gimmick... I don't think so...
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Rofl at Bosch propaganda. They are double the cost and you can't gap them either. Screw that. I'll stick with Autolite thank you and I'll change them at regular intervals knowing I have a quality product and the gap is correct.
 
Well you can say what you want but they have proven to work outstanding on both my Camaro and my SVT... and I have dyno sheets to prove it :shrug:
 
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