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1slosnake

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Well here is the deal got a 98.5 Red SVT. The car runs absolutely perfect, it has 107k. The only issue the car has is SOMETIMES and I can't stress that enough, sometimes it doesn't want to start. It will crank and crank but won't start. BUT you can push start the car no problem and even after that it will restart no problem for a few times, it is a very intermittent problem. I have released the schrader valve and there is fuel there. But it varied each time I released the schrader valve so I am thinking it is the Fuel filter. The pump sounds fine so I don't think thats the problem. And there are no codes thrown from the problem either. So I was curious if anybody has had a similar problem and what was it. Any input is appreciated.

Thanks,
Ross
 
1slosnake said:
... The only issue the car has is SOMETIMES and I can't stress that enough, sometimes it doesn't want to start. It will crank and crank but won't start. BUT you can push start the car no problem and even after that it will restart no problem for a few times, it is a very intermittent problem. ....
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Battery or starter. Test them.


Battery test.
http://www.contour.org/ceg-vb/showthread.php?t=3535

Starter
Test
http://www.autozone.com/servlet/UiB..._us/0900823d/80/1b/c3/4b/0900823d801bc34b.jsp

and how to
http://www.contour.org/ceg-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=54
 
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Unless your eyes possess a multimeter, and a finely tuned solid state voltage comparator, then you haven't done jack $#@^ to test it, and you don't know if it is good or not.

Either that, or you are positive just by thinking about it, and you've effectively removed EVERY SINGLE CULPRIT THERE IS, except the flywheel.. so go ahead and dump the cash to have the tranny removed, my man.

:nonono:

If you didn't want any help, or weren't willing to perform the tests you asked for, then why did you ask?
 
Ray said:
Unless your eyes possess a multimeter, and a finely tuned solid state voltage comparator, then you haven't done jack $#@^ to test it, and you don't know if it is good or not.

Either that, or you are positive just by thinking about it, and you've effectively removed EVERY SINGLE CULPRIT THERE IS, except the flywheel.. so go ahead and dump the cash to have the tranny removed, my man.

:nonono:

If you didn't want any help, or weren't willing to perform the tests you asked for, then why did you ask?
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#1 Like it states I AM LOOKING to see if anybody has had a similar problem.
#2 The car has no problems with the alternator or the battery, I already checked the charging system.
#3 I am looking for responses that can actually get me some insight to the situation, I appreciate the feedback but as I said was looking for a little more of an in depth answer being as most little stuff has been gone through.
#4 And don't worry about me, cause every thing I do is done by me so I don't have to worry about DROPPING cash to get stuff done.

I realized I may have come off a little gruff in my response but IMO it kind of seemed like a pretty standard response. I know most people don't think of the little stuff through when trying to search out problems. But that is not the case here. That is why I just gave a general response back.

So just for arguements sake I will see what voltage is at the starter is but am pretty sure the fact that it will only do it only on random occasions and not all the time leads me to believe that is not the issue. If it was getting a small enough drop not to start it up. Why after being push started would I be able to turn it off and then start it right back up? The flywheel is okay too I checked it when I replaced the tranny about 2k ago/as is the teeth on the starter no problems there either.
 
1slosnake said:
... Why after being push started would I be able to turn it off and then start it right back up? ..
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1) Low battery getting the charge just enough to start.
2) Loose connections at the battery or starter. Or the jolt jolted the failing starter or solenoid so that it worked the next time. ;)

I'm sure there will be other suggestions when others post.
 
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Tony2005 said:
1) Low battery getting the charge just enough to start.
2) Loose connections at the battery or starter. Or the jolt jolted a failing starter or solenoid so that it worked the next time.
;)
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Think I may have figured out the issue we will see tomorrow. I'm thinking there maybe a dead spot in the starter. I am going to find out tomorrow. (to damn cold out right now) Going to try and crank it up and see if the RPM varies at all. If it doesn't then I am going to turn the crank a 1/4 turn to spin the starter gears and see if it starts up. It is just a thought. I think that there could be a issue with the brushes. We will see, I appreciate the input though. I will double check the connection though considering I did the tranny earlier this year.
 
1slosnake said:
...... .. considering I did the tranny earlier this year.
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Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. You may have inadvertently broken something (or not tighten one of those "bolts" at the starter) while reinstalling it. ;)

It happens to everybody at some time or another. I have "lost" enough sockets in the "darkness" of the engine bay, broken enough "plastic" electrical connectors, or rounded off enough bolts, to not disregard the simple things :o .
 
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Tony2005 said:
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. You may have inadvertently broken something (or not tighten one of those "bolts" at the starter) while reinstalling it. ;)

It happens to everybody at some time or another. I have "lost" enough sockets in the "darkness" of the engine bay, broken enough "plastic" electrical connectors, or rounded off enough bolts, to not disregard the simple things :o .
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:D Good looking out I will let you know the outcome....
 
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