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just changed air filter and seems to be oil?

james9290

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Hey guys I have a 98 ford contour SE and my air filter was filty and breather also replaced it. I tried cleaner breather with water as autozone didn't have one it stock seemed to be like it had oil in it also filter was not covered in it but needed to be replaced bad. I found a store that had breather in stock so cleaned housing replaced filters and was just wondering if I have a more serious problem on my hands. I don't think it's supposed to look like it did and input?

Thanks in advance

James
 
Hey guys I have a 98 ford contour SE and my air filter was filty and breather also replaced it. I tried cleaner breather with water as autozone didn't have one it stock seemed to be like it had oil in it also filter was not covered in it but needed to be replaced bad. I found a store that had breather in stock so cleaned housing replaced filters and was just wondering if I have a more serious problem on my hands. I don't think it's supposed to look like it did and input?

Thanks in advance

James
What? I can't make sense of what you wrote. Did you find oil in the intake behind the filter?
 
SVTC1136: What? I can't make sense of what you wrote. Did you find oil in the intake behind the filter?

Yes behind the air filter the plastic housing seemed to have a little bit of oil in it. The air breather little square filter only cost $1.75 was soaked in oil also,



BoSoxBruin It sounds like oil traveled through the cam breather hose and into the intake hose / filter box area..

Thanks this is what seems to be happening just not sure why. Could it mean that it once had too much oil? If that's the case no big deal as that won't happen again.
 
SVTC1136: What? I can't make sense of what you wrote. Did you find oil in the intake behind the filter?

Yes behind the air filter the plastic housing seemed to have a little bit of oil in it. The air breather little square filter only cost $1.75 was soaked in oil also,



BoSoxBruin It sounds like oil traveled through the cam breather hose and into the intake hose / filter box area..

Thanks this is what seems to be happening just not sure why. Could it mean that it once had too much oil? If that's the case no big deal as that won't happen again.
I had oil in that area from a bad pcv valve. about 5 dollars to replace it if you want to be sure. You probably will want to clean the MAF sensor as well. Were/are you having issues with driveability?
 
Hey thanks for the reply. I have the valve and tried to replace it like two weeks ago but had to put together as I didn't have right torx driver to replace pcv valve but I will make sure get to it this weekend if rain would just stop for one weekend. Just general maintance on car things that haven't been done in awhile, nothing wrong with driveable maybe some loss of horse power I been feeling for awhile now. Think maybe fuel injectors need be cleaned but thanks for your suggestions.
 
Hmm...I was always under the impression that a bad PCV on the Zetec would cause more of a vacuum condition. What I mean is, if you were to take off the breather hose while the engine was running, and you had a bad PCV, it would suck in a little bit on your hand as you tried to cover the hole. I could be mistaken, however, as I'm unsure of the certainty of the source!
 
Mine did that same thing for awhile, got oil in the hose. I think it slowly collects near the outlet on the valve cover, and since it's slightly downhill, it runs down the tube to the bottom of the air filter. I never really worried about it.
 
Wow, some of these ideas. The hose will suck when PCV is GOOD. Breather hose forms first half of a loop which goes through air filter box, then hose, through engine and then PCV and hose to intake. When PCV is stopped up, breather hose will then show BOTH positive and negative pressure as pistons rise and fall, changing the area inside crankcase. Rising or positive pressure will be more because piston/ring seal never 100%, blowby makes more pressure than piston going back to TDC makes vacuum. This difference gets more pronounced as motor gets older, more blowby makes some oil mist go up that breather tube into air filter housing. Normal as long as it's not a lot. Entire PCV system works at a vacuum at low rpm/idle, but switches to more of a positive pressure containment system at higher rpm because vacuum drops way off at rpm along with attendant increase in blowby. The overflow pressure/vapor goes into the air filter housing to be burned. That's NORMAL. Not commonly known is the fact that PCV valves are (or used to be) often changed by Ford for ones with a different sized orifice in them to help accomodate the greater blowby leakage rates on older engines. They were called high mileage PCVs.
 
Well I have since replaced the pcv valvle since posted this and to my surprise air filter has oil on it again. I guess will just live with it as I plan on getting rid this car in 6 months. Thanks for everyone's insight.
 
kind old post sorry

kind old post sorry

Hey guys I'm still having the same problem replaced air filter, pvc valve, breather filter and there is not too much oil in car I was doing some work today figured would check air filter replaced 2 months ago again oil on air filter and at bottom of air filter housing any other ideas? Thanks
 
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