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Mysterious "Free" Repair On A Stalled 95 Contour

easygoing

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My Ford Contour 95 had engine stall in a rainstorm. After the mechanic do a tune-up to change oil, spark plug, and coils, the car stalled right at the garage's parking lot, with the exactly same symptom. The mechanic took another day to fix the car, and did not change extra. Well, I need to drive it longer to make sure that the stalling was fixed.
Several days ago there is a big snowstorm in Boston, and it later turned into rainstorm. I had to drive through deep puddles and some completely submerged streets. Just when I feel lucky that I did not have the usually battery light-freezing steering problem when water splashed over the belt, I saw the red battery light and oil light (on the right upper corner) went on, and yellow check engine light also on. The engine stopped, and I glided to a halt in an intersection. I can start the engine for a second, even move one yard or two, then the engine will shut off. I did this two times, and decided to wait quietly for AAA to tow me to the garage.
While waiting to be towed, I opened the hood and felt that the engine temperature is normal. But around two poles of battery there were two pools of dark red fluid.
I had the AAA to tow my car to the same garage that I changed water pump and engine oil in the previous day. I could not imagine that the engine oil and water pump has anything to do with engine stalling, so I think that this engine stalling just another problem popping up in the same week.
With the car in garage, the mechanic told me that my car need $275 tune-up and $100 transmission oil change. I simply cannot image how engine stall caused by flooding will require a transmission oil change. So I insisted on tune-up only, which is supposedly to get water from engine, oil, and change rusted wires. I have doubt on tune-up, but I decided to listen to the mechanic. If $275 can get my car running again, I do not want to make a fuss.
My wife went to pick up the car, and before she could back out of the garage's parking lot, the car stalled again, with the same set of warning lights. Somehow the mechanic could still start the car again, and drive into the repair bay.
Today my wife was told that the car is fixed, after some sensor change. The mechanic decided not to charge extra. Despite my wife's repeated questioning, the mechanic did not want to give more information.
Now it is clear that the mechanic used the rule of thumb for most flooded cars and prescribed tune-up. It is also clear that my problem has nothing to do with tune-up.
Could anybody shed light on this mysterious problem, and the mysterious "free" repair? Is there anything I can do to prevent this kind of horrible problem?
 
....But around two poles of battery there were two pools of dark red fluid...... It is also clear that my problem has nothing to do with tune-up.
Could anybody shed light on this mysterious problem, and the mysterious "free" repair? Is there anything I can do to prevent this kind of horrible problem?
Post year, mileage, engine and tranny in signature.

Dark red fluid on 95 Contour battery. Your ATX breather hose is next to the battery. Time to change the ATFluid if water went in or if you haven't changed it in 2 years/24K miles.

A tune up is always good. As for the sensor, not sure what sensor was changed. Assuming you have 2.0 L Zetec 4 cylinder, maybe water got into the connector for the O2 sensor. If the check engine light comes on, have it read (free at Autozone or Advance). You can use paperclip method to check it yourself.
 
Thank Tony2005 for the tip.
My Contour 95 is V6 GL Auto. Mileage is 75,000 miles.
For AT fluid I assume is Automatic Transmission fluid.
Before I simply could not imagine that engine or transmission is open to outside, in any possible way. My impression is that if a snorkel is installed, along with other measures, a car in theory should be able to craw through a river fully submerged. At least in real life, there are so many cars struggling through flooded streets up to the spoke. I never heard of any case that after a rainstorm, most cars of the whole city went into garage for water-related problems. It is 21st century now. Cars should not be build that vulnerable.
In any way, I will schedule for the change of transmission fluid.
 
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....I never heard of any case that after a rainstorm, most cars of the whole city went into garage for water-related problems. It is 21st century now. Cars should be build that vulnerable.
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ROTFL. Do a search in our old forums for hydrolock or water or flood. In addition, the newer cars have many sensors which when exposed to water is almost a guarantee for driveability problems.
 
Thank Tony2005 again. I will be more careful about driving in flood.
If there is any more rainstorm, I will take subway, and risk being showered between my home and subway station.
My sneakers or boots are not nearly as water-resistant as the Micheline tires on my Contour, but my sensors are much more resistant to flooding than the car.
 
If your problems only occur when it is raining or wet outside, I would install the Ford Splash shield kit. I had similar problems and this kit fixed it. It installs on the passenger side.

Bob
 
Splash Guard Already Installed. Not Much Improvement

Splash Guard Already Installed. Not Much Improvement

Thank btrautman for the tip about splash guard.
Water splashing and resulted freezing of the steering and red battery light are a long time problem for my Contour now. Two years ago I replace the alternator and belt. Even since that repair, I had frozen steering and red battery light whenever I drove through a puddle. This forum gave a lot of advices, and I decided to put on the splash shield, the simplest measure. My mechanic did not know there is such a thing, and I had to copy him the part number. It cost me $100 to put on the splash shield. After that, I had the frozen steering problem whenever I drove through a deep puddle at very slow speed. The problem would not show up if I drove above 10 mph. That is improvement, and somebody may make a movie like Speed about it.
Of cause, the mechanic checked the belt many times. What they did I have no idea.
The engine stall several days ago happened when I have the splash shield. I knew the splash shield was working because I drove through large patches of deep water, and I never had frozen steering and red battery light on that day.

After the $275 tune up and claimed sensor change, I drove the Contour again through some puddle and slush, without any problem.
However, now I do not feel comfortable to have long trips in this car with kids in the coming summer. So I am in the market for a minivan. For this 95 Contour, I want to keep it as commute car (6 miles one-way) and run-around car for myself. Even after 11 years of service, its chassis still feels firm and its engine strong. I fully expect quite some distance out of it.
 
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my buddy E30 was bucking a bogging. i told him to look at his intake and maf. he said there was some water in there and he said he dried it. next day he calls me and said it still bogging. so he brings it over and there was still alot of water in the intake hose. i dumped it out and made sure he had no leaks. i determined that there was ice on his grille/ headlamps from his car sitting in the snow and it melted and leaked through around his headlamps and he sucked it up. problem fixed now. hope that helps maybe.
 
I never heard of any case that after a rainstorm, most cars of the whole city went into garage for water-related problems. It is 21st century now. Cars should not be build that vulnerable.

ROFLCOPTER.
 
Another routine maintenance in winter: Check Intake Hose

Another routine maintenance in winter: Check Intake Hose

Thank SVTJON87 for the tip.
Also thank realslimshaver for the possible new splash shield.
If there is an improved and "perfect" splash shield, I will buy it. Otherwise, I will try to bolt another plastic plate onto my splash shield to fully protect my alternator and belt.
 
Your contour is not amphibious. Stop driving through flooded streets! That will almost always cause problems.:blackeye: Regardless of splashielsds, there is no way to guarantee that water won't get into places it shouldn't be.
 
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