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  • CKtour98
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    Originally posted by 96BlackSE View Post
    1million
    lololololololololol winnar

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  • PDXSVT
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    Ghostrider, I'm confused. Fully forged with svt goodies, NA? With what other goodies? 250 hp at the crank, less 16% for transmission loss, yields a ballpark figure of 210 hp at the wheels. I personally do not think you need special forged components and extra compression to do that. Right combo of intake mods, exhaust mods and a saint of a tuner has a shot of getting that result. Then again, some will say it's sacrilegious to suggest it is so do-able without a 3L.

    I found the OLD archives' thread in the dyno & drag forum from Feb 2006 about people using (too big) 65 mm TBs and (too restrictive) optimized stock y pipes and the awful kinked MSDS y pipes in effect telling me and my tuner's boss we were full of it over saying we got 200+ fwhp on my 2.5L.

    Even with power, you still need torque and traction. Get those, you might also need new half axles.

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  • 96BlackSE
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    Originally posted by Ghost Rider ST View Post
    What sort of numbers could I expect from a fully forged, high compression 2.5 V6 in N/A format with all the SVT goodies? 250hp at the crank would be very nice, more would be better
    1million

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  • Ghost Rider ST
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    What sort of numbers could I expect from a fully forged, high compression 2.5 V6 in N/A format with all the SVT goodies? 250hp at the crank would be very nice, more would be better

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  • timeless420
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    Threads like this is why I still poke around now and then (as well as to sell parts I have floating around)

    Detailed mod list vanished with the old forums. 11.7:1 Ross Pistons, Escape 3L block & Heads (ported), SVT Cams, 60mm TB, Honed UIM, LIM optimized and so on. Built in my garage :-)

    Steeda_Sept2305..jpg

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  • rwalton
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    I looked and found my last dyno graph. I was wrong it made 246.3hp and 175 ft lb. It makes max hp at 7800 rpm torque is flat from about 6500-7500. I currently have rev limit at 8250rpm, it is still making hp but is falling off quickly.
    It is a fun engine but idles at 1800rpm is difficult to drive under 3000rpm. Not a great street engine!!

    Rob

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  • PDXSVT
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    rwalton, 237 at the wheels for a built 2.5L sounds like a top end rocket, and IIRC, that's consistent with road course postings you blessed us with. What kind of torque curve and torque peak did your built 2.5 generate? I once got a nice dyno peak HP result on my street driven 2.5, but torque was below that of many 3Ls, around 175 ft lbs.

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  • YOOOO
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    Originally posted by starjammir View Post
    Best the car has done NA is 220/200 and that was done by me. I believe IF Stabler did it, it might have done that with spray when he did the big shot on the 2.5 before it blew.
    Yeah the 218whp dyno sheet seems old- looks like it was before the IMRC was deleted as there's a drop in power at 4k. I can't remember where I got the 231 figure from but it's stuck in my head from somewhere. Anyways, how ya been man? lol

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  • starjammir
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    Originally posted by YOOOO View Post
    I have a physical dyno sheet that says 218. There's a dyno sheet floating online somewhere of my car putting down 231whp by the previous owner.

    If there's a dyno day event close to me I'll find out for sure what it is.
    Best the car has done NA is 220/200 and that was done by me. I believe IF Stabler did it, it might have done that with spray when he did the big shot on the 2.5 before it blew.

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  • rwalton
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    Originally posted by mrspindlelegs View Post
    I did a little digging on the Internet and found claims that the Mumm Brothers 2.5L Duratec motor was build by Kinetics and that it put out 290+ HP. I'm pretty sure that output was at the crank since the motor underwent a lot of engine dyno testing. Thus, it was probably delivering a minimum of 240 - 247 Hp to the wheels assuming 15 - 17% loss through the drivetrain.
    You are very close. I have a Kinetics built 2.5 and the most I've seen at the wheels is 237. I've tryed a couple of different header designs and did get some much needed torque. The problem I'm having is I can't tune the motor. I need a different management system, I'm still using the Ford computer and had no luck tuning it! But the car runs great!

    Rob

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  • Manimillion
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    Comparing dyno sheets of different dynos would be a bad start, unless you compare them on the same dyno. Dyno's are great tuning tools, and I would just leave them at that.

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  • FastFord
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    Ahh yes Doms car
    http://www.newcougar.org/forums/thread150895.html

    I know where I can get a knife edged crank and pauter rods for cheap. Have some high compression pistons made, PnP heads, those cams, coupled with my headers and intake should make some power. Anyone wanna pitch in?

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  • aboythatskates
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    cams do wonders!
    i want a set:(

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  • striker2
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    Originally posted by CKtour98 View Post
    maybe when it was a 2.5L on spray? I can find out



    Goodluck!! Would be nice to see someone put that down but I'll say its a longshot (unless you go all out!)
    I dont think its a long shot. just need the right cams and tune.

    full 3L made 227HP/214TQ at the wheels.



    before the cams and retune it was at 207/204, so pretty typical of a tuned 3L.

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  • CKtour98
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    Originally posted by YOOOO View Post
    There's a dyno sheet floating online somewhere of my car putting down 231whp by the previous owner.
    maybe when it was a 2.5L on spray? I can find out

    Originally posted by FastFord View Post
    I am hoping for 230 to the wheels, we shall see.
    Goodluck!! Would be nice to see someone put that down but I'll say its a longshot (unless you go all out!)

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