Here's my recap on this situation. I'm so angry that I can't sleep right now, so I might as well do something productive here.

Originally posted by Cardoc:
Well, come November he said alot of people had backed out - And that he may have to throw the money in to get it done. I didn't hear anything for another month - Same story. Now it's January 2004.... I wrote him informing him that the GB was off, I'm finished with the stalling.




Read Adam's post on 10/21/2003 (and again on 10/30/2003). He officially announces that he has all the paid people he needs (yes, all 25+), is putting in the order, and the gauges would be ready in two weeks.

He then posts on 11/15/2003 that the order has been placed (no mention of only paying for 10 gauges) and he's just waiting on them. There are a lot of posts at this point wondering what's going on, but NO ONE backs out. In fact, most people are saying that they trust Adam will come through and "I'm sure he's a busy guy." This directly contradicts what he tells Cardoc, that "... alot (sic) of people had backed out..."

On 11/26/2003, Adam reports that he has received ALL (direct quote) of the gauges, but half the order was "messed up." As perry points out, exactly 10 gauges are pictured, which coincides with Cardoc's statement that Adam bought 8-10 gauges sets off of him.

December comes and goes, and once again no one appears to back out (unless by PM, but Adam makes no mention of such a thing). The day after Christmas he starts shipping what he has. At this point I'd like to point out that Josch reports that he has received his gauges. So, that explains why he's so quick to come to the aid of Adam. I'm sorry, but that makes your criticism of me and the rest of us who have been screwed over even more inane. If you wish to discuss this further, feel free to PM me.

The new year starts to bring some dissension in the ranks where some start showing some frustration and ask Adam to investigate the delays in replacing the alleged "messed up" gauges. wa2tuff points out that they (the company or Adam?) has over $2000 of our money. Adam posts on 1/29/2004 (almost a month after his last post) to say that nothing has changed. I still haven't seen anyone back out at this point, but its possible I missed one somewhere. Adam posts on 1/29/2004 to clear up confusion as to the order of the paid list. Here's where it gets fun. On 1/31/2004 Adam posts that:

Originally posted by 1BADTOUR:
I'm pushing these people as much as I can, they keep telling me they are working on filling the rest of the order and it will be the end of february before they get shipped. I only ask for your understanding in this and I want you all to know I'm not going to let anyone in this group buy get screwed. I'm doing my best.




By this point we must assume Cardoc has contacted him to say the GB is off, but Adam does not mention this. In fact, this entire post is a complete and utter lie. Oh, BTW, Adam has his gauges installed.

Finally on 2/12/2004, JETNBYA posts the first "I want out" message. On 2/20/2004 Adam begins his long string of "I'm trying to get a refund, just be patient" posts. The same day, I recommend getting an address/phone number for the GB participants to start a campaign to put pressure on the company. Skrilla187 gets his gauges three days later.

March comes, and most of the posts are downright angry. Plus Adam has slowed updates to once every two or three weeks. On 3/12/2004, BURNTU2 demands his money back (#2). On 3/16/2004 Adam posts that he'll buy out the people who want a refund at the rate of about one person per week. More angry posts (myself included) and on 3/25/2004 Adam goes on a rant (can you believe this?) and accuses me of violating forum rule #7. He also puts me at the top of the buyout list because I'm a squeeky wheel (which I later decline). After a more humane discussion he promises to post weekly.

At this point, the thread degenerates to the point it is at right now, which includes Adam lying about how often he is able to visit CEG. Most of what Adam posts is contradictory to Cardoc's information.

I've reached the end of my tolerance of this. This is no longer about $80 of my money (especially compared to the Kaotic mess). This is now about lying and theft.


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