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Originally posted by kontour_sev6:
the whole point is that we should not think that this case is a laughing matter because we might face this same demise!!!!!!!




If I were unfortunate enough to be in her situation, I would not have parents who turn this into a national spectical.

Not to mention the new news that came out yesterday, I feel sorry for her parents that they have to go through this, but they are ass holes...


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She does not need life support... She only needs food and water




Hahahaha... I love the irony of that.

"Its not life support, we just have to give it to her to keep her alive!"

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Originally posted by kontour_sev6:
I have heard the same reports that you have on CNN and MSNBC and that is the point. You have several different "experts" saying there is no cerebral cortex and some that say that there was a shrinkage in the cortex, but either way there is some major brain damage. I am not disputing the fact that Terri would have some major problems, but she was never given a chance for any rehabilitation. Obviously none of us have first hand knowledge of Terri's case, but the whole point is that we should not think that this case is a laughing matter because we might face this same demise!!!!!!!




I tend to not watch mainstream news, actually. In fact I couldn't tell you the last time I watched CNN, MSNBC, or even FoxNews. My information is from the court documents, transcripts, and rulings of the previous cases. No expert has ever attempted to seriously argue that she has any remaining cerebral cortex left in court, not even those appointed by the Schindlers. The point is virtually unargued. Only those that appear on TV appear to be attempting to make that point.

And "never given a chance for rehablitation"? She spent over 5 years with the best doctors in the US for treatment. Her husband even had her taken to California for rehabilitation with a particular specialist for a long period of time. It was only after no progress at all was being made that further tests were done and found that her cerebral cortex was virtually non-existent, and by 2000 was entirely gone.


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It seems like starving her to death is cruel but I guess there is no good way to die.

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Originally posted by Th_m_s:
It seems like starving her to death is cruel but I guess there is no good way to die.





I agree, but I wonder if she can even feel it? I sure hope not for her sake!


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Originally posted by XKontour98:


I agree, but I wonder if she can even feel it? I sure hope not for her sake!




She can feel pain.


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Originally posted by kontour_sev6:
I have heard the same reports that you have on CNN and MSNBC and that is the point. You have several different "experts" saying there is no cerebral cortex and some that say that there was a shrinkage in the cortex, but either way there is some major brain damage. I am not disputing the fact that Terri would have some major problems, but she was never given a chance for any rehabilitation. Obviously none of us have first hand knowledge of Terri's case, but the whole point is that we should not think that this case is a laughing matter because we might face this same demise!!!!!!!






The MRI scan is pretty self-explanatory. I can't see how any neurologist can argue otherwise.

About the link, yeah it's pretty mean -- but common, it is pretty funny.

If Terri were my daughter, I would have preferred she be remembered as:


instead of:


Her parents need to let go. Their daughter died 10 years ago.

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Originally posted by todras:
She can feel pain.




And you know this, how? Most medical professionals that I spoken with have stated that she does not. One of the most simple tests performed on a person in this state is the pain and reflex tests. That's kind of like the "she must be so hungry" argument, she simply doesn't have any brain activity, therefore she does not feel pain, nor hunger.

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What a shame
I can see why her parents do not want to let her go from just looking at this picture. It's tough saying goodbye to someone for the last time at their funeral. Saying goodbye by the will of your hand gives you the option to do what you want, and perhaps for a short time it would "help" the grieving process.

But if you see where I'm going with this, doing that only makes it worse. The person they were will never be again.

Living up to your modern humane instincts and pulling the plug for someone you know is gone, is perhaps the best way for your "sustained" loved one to go.

The other half of the battle is ACCEPTANCE, in which many of us personally know is the hardest thing to do.

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Originally posted by todras:
Originally posted by XKontour98:


I agree, but I wonder if she can even feel it? I sure hope not for her sake!




She can feel pain.



I don't know if she can feel it if you hit or something, but I doubt it. From all I've heard though, she almost definitely can't feel hunger,etc.

And again, it's dehydration not hunger that will let her pass on.


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