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Originally posted by ZeroHour:
Originally posted by Tourige:
and how does he get that power down? drag slicks on the front.. lmao..
Nope he is going to reverse the trans and have 5 reverse gears, when he gets to the drag strip he'll run the damn thing in reverse while driving in the rear view mirror. 
Just kinding(hopefully)! Althought that would be funny to see.
It seems like that is going to be a crazy civic til your done with it. Good luck.
bahahahah... 
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Originally posted by GS474:
Originally posted by Manch-VegasSVT:
Thats about the size of the turbo on my buddies 240sx it's actully the turbo out of an early 90's powerstroke deisel..
you can see it here, as it was the main article for this issue of SCC, at the time that was the previous owners car who sold it to my buddy from school, in that article it's putting out like 250 or so horsepower and it was only running on 3 cyl. because one of the rotors in the dist. was rusted.
After my buddy bought the car he had a bunch of motor work done to it, and he just got it tuned yesterday and while only running 18lbs of boost it was putting down around 420hp at the wheels. he was limited to 18lbs of boost because thats all the injectors would allow for fuel flow(while maintaing an operational engine) , so now he is gonna try to sell his other car to uprgade it, and add a stand alone.....he wants to be able turn up the boost to like 27lbs or so break 500hp 
i got a question i know the diesil turbo's spool faster when there used with a diesil engine
do they spool at lower rpms on a gas engine or is just a diesil thing
sorry for the newbie question
A turbo is a turbo, regardless of what it's bolted to. Keep in mind the big trucks redline under 3k, and, IIRC, that Powersroke winds out around 6k.
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thats my point diesils spool the turbo faster
is it because its a diesil sor does the turbo its self spool up faster
what im tring to say is
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ok lets say a diesil gets full boost from the turbo at 2k rpms
and most turbo gas engines get there full boost around 4-5k rpm
i know displacement plays apart in it to so for this case lets say the engines are the same displacement
if you put a diesil turbo on a gas engine will it acheve full boost earlyer
or is the whole reason the diesils achive such full bost at low rpm because of the fuel
i know diesil packs more of a punch then gas so i could understand why the diesil gets full boost earlyer
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There isn't a difference between the turbo's. Our 19.5L SOHC inline 6-cylinder Detroit Diesel Series 60's use a Garret turbo, albeit a huge one. The turbo's size is relative to the engine. Now, I'm no turbo/physics tech, but I think you can engineer the turbo to spool up quicker by using different turbines inside the turbo. Did I make that up?  ...and on topic, that Civic's motor had better build built solid to push over that big ass turbo, or it'll lag like a sommbeech until 11k.
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Originally posted by ZeroHour:
Originally posted by Tourige:
and how does he get that power down? drag slicks on the front.. lmao..
Nope he is going to reverse the trans and have 5 reverse gears, when he gets to the drag strip he'll run the damn thing in reverse while driving in the rear view mirror.
Just kinding(hopefully)! Althought that would be funny to see.
It seems like that is going to be a crazy civic til your done with it. Good luck.
We sorta joke around about he's going to be the first to do a reverse wheel stand. He's just crazy enough to try it, and when it blows the tranny apart, crazy enough to try it again.
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Originally posted by Tourige:
ive spent maybe what.. 2 grand on my car in TOTAL including maintence, that car has over 15-20 grand in it, so that comparison is apples to oranges, for 20 grand i could have a low 11's, high 10 second Cobra that can be daily driven...
Im just saying you mod out cars that are performance oriented to begin with, not cars that are used for economy and effiency.
I thought you were talking about my friend's car. It has well under $5000 in it right now.
You mod out cars that you want to mod out. It'd be boring if everyone just modded mustangs.
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Agreed, your friend should mod whatever makes him happy. The mention of a mustang seems unnecessary as I do not recall beating mustangs being his stated purpose. The point is, civics are civics and mustangs are mustangs. If your game is to have a quick ride for the drag strip, then mustangs will do the trick for less ... and so will a motorcycle. To me, it's more *interesting* to see a full blown civic than mustang because I love seeing those little motors put out big numbers, not because they can beat mustangs at the drags (though I will admit that part of the fun to me is also in the comedy of seeing a little, unassuming car with tiny engine beat a sports car with a big engine ... one day, I will get my paws on a Ford RS200 Evo and beat a McLaren, knowing that I did it on 2 liters  ) Good luck and I hope you keep us posted on the progres. It will be interesting to see the end result!
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Originally posted by GS474:
thats my point diesils spool the turbo faster
is it because its a diesil sor does the turbo its self spool up faster
what im tring to say is
(sorry for the hijack)
ok lets say a diesil gets full boost from the turbo at 2k rpms
and most turbo gas engines get there full boost around 4-5k rpm
i know displacement plays apart in it to so for this case lets say the engines are the same displacement
if you put a diesil turbo on a gas engine will it acheve full boost earlyer
or is the whole reason the diesils achive such full bost at low rpm because of the fuel
i know diesil packs more of a punch then gas so i could understand why the diesil gets full boost earlyer
I'm no expert, but i'd think that a Diesel is able to spool a turbo with fewer revs, is due to it's compression. With Diesels at 20:1 or so, there would be more exhaust force for each exhaust stroke.
Someone correct me pls if i'm off here.
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Originally posted by touredon:
I'm no expert, but i'd think that a Diesel is able to spool a turbo with fewer revs, is due to it's compression. With Diesels at 20:1 or so, there would be more exhaust force for each exhaust stroke.
Someone correct me pls if i'm off here.
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thanks im clear on the subject now
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