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Originally posted by bishop375:
Originally posted by Corbett:
Which is exactly why you believe in Gay rights. You have no base for your moral beliefs.
Actually, according to what Jesus taught, we should love people regardless of them being gay or straight. We should love each other, and whatever is done "wrong" is up for God to decide.
I love the bastardization of religion to allow discrimination. It's a wonderful thing.
If you want to be technical, our morals are FAR stronger than yours.
Yes we should all love each other. That means don't spit (example) on somebody because of their gender,race,etc. Bible is still says homosexuality is not right. For Christians, we feel we don't have to support homosexuality and are right in doing so. We also can't go out beating up gay people, but we don't have to support what they do or support them marrying as man and woman marry.
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Kremit... if you and your family do not participate in the "weird things" then what impact does that have on you? None. I have my opinions too, I don't find same-sex relationships appealing to me personally, but I'm not about to deny someone else their rights because I find it funny. I find white people acting like black people funny, and although I make fun of them internally, I don't stop them from acting like that.
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Originally posted by daenku32:
Originally posted by rkneeshaw3.0:
But marriage, as defined by laws, is based on this religious ceremony from the bible's account of creation.
Your local code must be different because the Indiana Code for marriage doesn't mention anything about Adam and Eve, the Bible, or any such requirement to keep marriage laws biblically acceptable.
My point was that its the same thing, and based on that. Why would they create a law and say "this law is based on the bible: "? Lets not get silly. Law says that marriage is between a man and a woman. The people that founded this country were christians, and for the most part based their laws on those beliefs. Especially marriage.
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Originally posted by bishop375:
Originally posted by Corbett:
Which is exactly why you believe in Gay rights. You have no base for your moral beliefs.
Actually, according to what Jesus taught, we should love people regardless of them being gay or straight. We should love each other, and whatever is done "wrong" is up for God to decide.
I love the bastardization of religion to allow discrimination. It's a wonderful thing.
If you want to be technical, our morals are FAR stronger than yours.
Yes we should all love each other. That means don't spit (example) on somebody because of their gender,race,etc. Bible is still says homosexuality is not right. For Christians, we feel we don't have to support homosexuality and are right in doing so. We also can't go out beating up gay people, but we don't have to support what they do or support them marrying as man and woman marry.
Kremit, I think for the first time I want to give you a high-five.
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Originally posted by CHF_Slapaho:
Kremit... if you and your family do not participate in the "weird things" then what impact does that have on you? None. I have my opinions too, I don't find same-sex relationships appealing to me personally, but I'm not about to deny someone else their rights because I find it funny. I find white people acting like black people funny, and although I make fun of them internally, I don't stop them from acting like that.
Oo my family doesn't kill people so what impact does murder have on me. We're not rapist. We don't rob people. And where am I stopping a gay person from being gay, no where.
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Originally posted by rkneeshaw3.0:
Originally posted by daenku32:
Originally posted by rkneeshaw3.0:
But marriage, as defined by laws, is based on this religious ceremony from the bible's account of creation.
Your local code must be different because the Indiana Code for marriage doesn't mention anything about Adam and Eve, the Bible, or any such requirement to keep marriage laws biblically acceptable.
My point was that its the same thing, and based on that. Why would they create a law and say "this law is based on the bible: "? Lets not get silly. Law says that marriage is between a man and a woman. The people that founded this country were christians, and for the most part based their laws on those beliefs. Especially marriage.
so essentially what you're saying is forget what Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Atheists, Scientists and the rest of the denominations want, just do what the Christians want, right?
This is not 1776. This country is not made up of 100% Christians. Stop trying to evangelize your beliefs on others forcefully. This is what gave Christianity a bad rap during the Inquisition and Crusades.
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Originally posted by CHF_Slapaho:
Kremit... if you and your family do not participate in the "weird things" then what impact does that have on you? None. I have my opinions too, I don't find same-sex relationships appealing to me personally, but I'm not about to deny someone else their rights because I find it funny. I find white people acting like black people funny, and although I make fun of them internally, I don't stop them from acting like that.
Oo my family doesn't kill people so what impact does murder have on me. We're not rapist. We don't rob people. And where am I stopping a gay person from being gay, no where.
You are trying to equate the presence of gay marriages to rape, murder and theft. These things are not equal. Two gay people walking by you will not kill you. A gay couple kissing will not take your money or violate your rights.
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Originally posted by CHF_Slapaho:
Kremit... if you and your family do not participate in the "weird things" then what impact does that have on you? None. I have my opinions too, I don't find same-sex relationships appealing to me personally, but I'm not about to deny someone else their rights because I find it funny. I find white people acting like black people funny, and although I make fun of them internally, I don't stop them from acting like that.
Oo my family doesn't kill people so what impact does murder have on me. We're not rapist. We don't rob people. And where am I stopping a gay person from being gay, no where.
Ok. Let's ban EVERYTHING. Let's not leave people the ability to do ANYTHING legally. Let's just toss Freedom of Religion in the canister. If you don't believe in the majority religion, you don't have rights to your beliefs.
If you are going to equate gay marriage to MURDER, you needs your bolts checked.
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I think separation of church and state are being misunderstood. This does not mean you can't use your religion as a basis for how you vote. It means, govn't can not support one religion and not all others, and can not place any one religion over another. I see a conflict with this only in parts of govn't stuff that say "under God", but as this country was formed on Christianity, I believe it should remain that way. Laws are based on morals. For many of us, religion is a major part of our morals. It's our right for it to be a deciding part of our lives. Whatever someone else bases their morals on is their right as well. We are then allowed to vote on issues and majority wins. Period.
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It is extemely ingorant to assume that because I am not directly affected by a law that it doesn't concern me. I am concerned about laws that affect my country.
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