has anyone done a true twin turbo setup of either the 2.5 v6 contour engine or the 3.0 v6 noble m400 engine. im planning on doing it but i need a little guidence and help to make it happen. if anyone has i would like to talk to them to get their input. thank you to everyone in advance. -James C.
nobody has done a twin turbo setup because:
1) No room! My single turbo BARELY fits as it is.
2) No more gains than a single turbo
3) Its purely for pimp factor and most people are NOT going for that.
4) Unless youve got funny money, the cost to fabricate a TT kit is going to be rediculous.
You might as well just buy a noble because its going to cost a buttload to make it happen on a contour.
pretty much what Jim said.
It is certainly possible to do the twin turbo, but a lot more trouble to do with no advantages over a proper single turbo.
If you must have a twin turbo duratec, get the Noble.
The last time I talked to Dean Joyce he was saying something about a twin turbo. Not sure if he started on it.
"Hi I just bought a contour. I realize that it is a V6 and has two exhaust manifolds. Therefore twin turbos is something I would like to do. I know very little about cars, but I read some magazines. Please help"
Mitch Hedberg voice
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho:
"Hi I just bought a contour. I realize that it is a V6 and has two exhaust manifolds. Therefore twin turbos is something I would like to do. I know very little about cars, but I read some magazines. Please help"
Mitch Hedberg voice
Import Tuner Magazine to be exact...
these threads make me feel silly inside.
the STS turbo kit is BS. i have realized that a true twin turbo is that the turbo are right off the manifold. if they are 3+ft downstream from the manifold you loose power and then just having one giant turbo would do the trick. and since there is NO room on the rear manifold i will have to go with a single turbo setup. honestly the only way to get a turbo on the rear manifold would be to cut the front clip at the firewall and extend it 6inches forward and mod alot. to complicated. 1 big A turbo and hi boost. im gunna go with the Noble M400 powerplant with a custom MTX75 USDM by Terry Haines and Quaife. ideas on what type of turbo, blow off valve, etc. would be helpful. thank you everyone for your help. -James C.
Originally posted by archangelnj25:
the STS turbo kit is BS.
Can you elaborate? I used to think they were stupid too, but with the numbers they seem to be putting down, you can't really call them BS.
Originally posted by archangelnj25:
im gunna go with the Noble M400 powerplant with a custom MTX75 USDM by Terry Haines and Quaife. ideas on what type of turbo, blow off valve, etc. would be helpful. thank you everyone for your help. -James C.
suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure you are.
you know what powerplant and USDA trans you are going with but not which turbo? why dont you use the MMT6 transmission?
STS systems are BS?!
who is this terry haines guy? 
I think you can pick up a Noble engine for $4200. I know at least one person here has purchased one.
Originally posted by m!key:
[who is this terry haines guy?
he owns HMS and was one of the engineers who designed the MTX-75 so he kinda knows what he is doing, usually runs about $2500 to get a race prepped tranny from him(you provide the tranny) and the noble motor is an excellent start if you have the $4300
Originally posted by cougarguy939:
Originally posted by m!key:
[who is this terry haines guy?
he owns HMS and was one of the engineers who designed the MTX-75 so he kinda knows what he is doing, usually runs about $2500 to get a race prepped tranny from him(you provide the tranny) and the noble motor is an excellent start if you have the $4300
...that was sarcasm...
Originally posted by archangelnj25:
im gunna go with the Noble M400 powerplant with a custom MTX75 USDM by Terry Haines and Quaife. ideas on what type of turbo, blow off valve, etc. would be helpful. thank you everyone for your help. -James C.
This is big bucks territory for a Contour. You know I actually started to write a response about how foolish it seems for a young man to throw money away like that... too tired to waste my time.
Here�s a litmus test for the practicality of this:
1. You do not live at home
2. You have finished college, or never intend to finish
3. You can keep $20,000 of money you earned in an account you alone control for 60 days without having to touch it (not college fund money or something given you)
If this is all true, then you are probably safe to throw away relatively big chunks of money at a hot rod SVT Contour. Certainly cheaper than gambling or illegal drugs.
Of course we have seen our share of 17 year old web site millionaires come through here earning well into the six figures while still living at home...and not shy at all to talk about how great it is! For such wonderkin the normal rules of common sense do not apply.
Originally posted by RTStabler51:
Originally posted by cougarguy939:
Originally posted by m!key:
[who is this terry haines guy?
he owns HMS and was one of the engineers who designed the MTX-75 so he kinda knows what he is doing, usually runs about $2500 to get a race prepped tranny from him(you provide the tranny) and the noble motor is an excellent start if you have the $4300
...that was sarcasm...
thats what i thought at first but i wasnt sure
Everytime I read one of these stupid-arse topics a little more of me dies inside, and it pushes me further away from the CEG. This place is going to hell in a handbasket...
People need to get real and stop thinking of Import Tuner as the bible.
Originally posted by Stazi:
Everytime I read one of these stupid-arse topics a little more of me dies inside, and it pushes me further away from the CEG. This place is going to hell in a handbasket...
People need to get real and stop thinking of Import Tuner as the bible.
I'm assuming you don't visit FCO? Everyonce in a while I check it out, then I remember why I like this site so much.
i do live at home and plan to for many more years. i didnt go to college. i went right to a full time job. im actually 20 not 17 but same [censored]. i got a great job at BMW and make 75K yearly. money is just money. not really ours to begin with. i work hard for my money and plan to make more of it. this car has sentimental value to my family. will never get rid of it. i am going to get the m400 powerplant paired up with a custom mtx75 trans from HMS. Y wont i go with the MMT6. b/c the internals arent strong enough. guys on the noble website arent too please. the interals are breaking are b/c of the high torque load. Quaife doesnt make custom gears for the MMT6 yet and will be a while before they do. so 4400 for the M400 and about 5k for custom trans(trany 250, gears 3000, lsd 1000, and 750 to HMS for install and build) the uk spec MTX75 uses a cable for the gearshift and on the 95 contour its a rod shift gearbox. so before to think you have someone already figured out and want to critisize them, make sure you have the facts. PM or email at
archangelnj25@comcast.net if you have any Q's for me. i understand the STS turbo makes power but if you use a single turbo instead of a twin turbo it'll make more power. u figure 750 per gt28r when u can get a g3582r for about 1400 and make around the same if not more power than 2 gt28r's.
look man... you aren't the first that has come on here and talked like you are talking.
#1 we don't care how much money you make (most people that have to talk about exagerrate it)
#2 you are asking very BASIC turbo questions period (not to mention it has been hashed and re-hashed SO MANY TIMES)
#3 you act and talk/type like you already know, so no one is going to give you any advice anyway
I'm 22, and I make money too yay!
Seriously dude, talk is farking cheap. Do or do not. If you are so knowledgeable then why are you even here asking questions?!!
I might do a twin turbo on my contour.. but that will be the last thing people are paying attention to.
Hey put a twin electric turbo on my car.
You want to hear this thing whine like this kid does. Man it screams i am awesome.
has anyone done a twin turbo setup on their contour?
No - because it's POINTLESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by Stazi:
People need to get real and stop thinking of Import Tuner as the bible.
you said it stazi
And your point?
Different car, different motor - TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
Thanks for your useless post. I'm guessing by your post, you are using the fact that it is a Ford as some sort of connection. That's fabulous.
Originally posted by Stazi:
And your point?
Different car, different motor - TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
Thanks for your useless post. I'm guessing by your post, you are using the fact that it is a Ford as some sort of connection. That's fabulous.
LOL
Originally posted by fordsvt98:
twin guns on a sho
Actually, its the Yamaha motor in PROBE!
And your point?
Different car, different motor - TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
Thanks for your useless post. I'm guessing by your post, you are using the fact that it is a Ford as some sort of connection. That's fabulous.
Wow, Im just "putting it out there" lol jeez..... lol ya, and thanks I am kinda fabulous! jerky
Why did you repeat what was said?
There is a Twin Turbo Lightning, that's about as relavant as a TT SHO motor in a Probe.
Originally posted by todras:
Why did you repeat what was said?
Obviously doesn't know how to "quote" properly.
Are we still talking about this? Geez. I'm half tempted to do a twin turbo contour just to shut people up. Though, I doubt it would have the intended effect "See man, that car was way cooler becaue it has TWO turbos . . ."
Originally posted by Rara:
Are we still talking about this? Geez. I'm half tempted to do a twin turbo contour just to shut people up. Though, I doubt it would have the intended effect "See man, that car was way cooler becaue it has TWO turbos . . ."
You need to get the motor out first RayRay.
And at the end of the day the only thing that will be twin turbo'd will be your workbench! 
Originally posted by Rara:
Are we still talking about this? Geez. I'm half tempted to do a twin turbo contour just to shut people up. Though, I doubt it would have the intended effect "See man, that car was way cooler becaue it has TWO turbos . . ."
Have you finished your cobra yet? 
lol
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho:
Originally posted by Rara:
Are we still talking about this? Geez. I'm half tempted to do a twin turbo contour just to shut people up. Though, I doubt it would have the intended effect "See man, that car was way cooler becaue it has TWO turbos . . ."
You need to get the motor out first RayRay.
And at the end of the day the only thing that will be twin turbo'd will be your workbench!
Hell, the cabinet is already quintuple-turbo'ed . . .
Quote:
Have you finished your cobra yet?
lol
Nah, Cobra got put on hold (again!) because some jackhole, lol, decided to hit my contour, and prompt some major repairs/upgrades. Between my wife being home for her summer break, me starting my new job, and generally being really really lazy, I haven't even finished getting the engine out of the car, lol.
It says Duratec and not Yamaha.. lol
It also says "Noble", and not Contour. Unless the engine bay and subframe are magically identical (and I have been misinformed) then it is still irrelevant.
Sorry you wasted your time looking up all those links, and posting them, though, bro.
ya, OK....did you catch that last one thats the best outta all of em! wonder what kinda power its gonna make. Incessant searches for pics googling twin turbos was kinda fun anyway....thanks for the sweet comments and the like, you guys are too cool! WAY to go TEAM CONTOUR! just because noone stuffed two of em yet in our engine bay doesnt mean......forget it, I guess Im wasting my time typing to some people with a brick wall in front of them. Thats what the waste of my time is.
Originally posted by fordsvt98:
ya, OK....did you catch that last one thats the best outta all of em! wonder what kinda power its gonna make. Incessant searches for pics googling twin turbos was kinda fun anyway....thanks for the sweet comments and the like, you guys are too cool! WAY to go TEAM CONTOUR! just because noone stuffed two of em yet in our engine bay doesnt mean......forget it, I guess Im wasting my time typing to some people with a brick wall in front of them. Thats what the waste of my time is.
Go ahead and prove us wrong
Oh man, I feel real salty. Just looking at how ridiculous this whole post is. If anyones reading this anymore, forget I ever existed and have a good one. It is people like me who probably piss people off in the wrong way. Sorry to anyone who cares. Thanks guys.
Originally posted by archangelnj25:
i do live at home and plan to for many more years. i didnt go to college. i went right to a full time job. im actually 20 not 17 but same [censored]. i got a great job at BMW and make 75K yearly. money is just money. not really ours to begin with. i work hard for my money and plan to make more of it. this car has sentimental value to my family. will never get rid of it. i am going to get the m400 powerplant paired up with a custom mtx75 trans from HMS. Y wont i go with the MMT6. b/c the internals arent strong enough. guys on the noble website arent too please. the interals are breaking are b/c of the high torque load. Quaife doesnt make custom gears for the MMT6 yet and will be a while before they do. so 4400 for the M400 and about 5k for custom trans(trany 250, gears 3000, lsd 1000, and 750 to HMS for install and build) the uk spec MTX75 uses a cable for the gearshift and on the 95 contour its a rod shift gearbox. so before to think you have someone already figured out and want to critisize them, make sure you have the facts. PM or email at archangelnj25@comcast.net if you have any Q's for me. i understand the STS turbo makes power but if you use a single turbo instead of a twin turbo it'll make more power. u figure 750 per gt28r when u can get a g3582r for about 1400 and make around the same if not more power than 2 gt28r's.
If you make 75k a year and live at home still, you're a [censored] moron.
Originally posted by YaaaarrroTour:
Originally posted by archangelnj25:
i do live at home and plan to for many more years. i didnt go to college. i went right to a full time job. im actually 20 not 17 but same [censored]. i got a great job at BMW and make 75K yearly. money is just money. not really ours to begin with. i work hard for my money and plan to make more of it. this car has sentimental value to my family. will never get rid of it. i am going to get the m400 powerplant paired up with a custom mtx75 trans from HMS. Y wont i go with the MMT6. b/c the internals arent strong enough. guys on the noble website arent too please. the interals are breaking are b/c of the high torque load. Quaife doesnt make custom gears for the MMT6 yet and will be a while before they do. so 4400 for the M400 and about 5k for custom trans(trany 250, gears 3000, lsd 1000, and 750 to HMS for install and build) the uk spec MTX75 uses a cable for the gearshift and on the 95 contour its a rod shift gearbox. so before to think you have someone already figured out and want to critisize them, make sure you have the facts. PM or email at archangelnj25@comcast.net if you have any Q's for me. i understand the STS turbo makes power but if you use a single turbo instead of a twin turbo it'll make more power. u figure 750 per gt28r when u can get a g3582r for about 1400 and make around the same if not more power than 2 gt28r's.
If you make 75k a year and live at home still, you're a [censored] moron.
LMAO
Originally posted by YaaaarrroTour:
If you make 75k a year and live at home still, you're a [censored] moron.
Or..
The smartest man...
[echo echo echo echo]IN THE WORLD!!!!!![/echo /echo /echo /echo]
Originally posted by Ray:
Originally posted by YaaaarrroTour:
If you make 75k a year and live at home still, you're a [censored] moron.
Or..
The smartest man...
[echo echo echo echo]IN THE WORLD!!!!!![/echo /echo /echo /echo]
My vote is for annoying and foolish man - but hey, it�s the internet, so it doesn�t matter (does it?).
Playing the fool is generally a bad habit to get into, regardless of venue.
Originally posted by YaaaarrroTour:
Originally posted by archangelnj25:
i do live at home and plan to for many more years. i didnt go to college. i went right to a full time job. im actually 20 not 17 but same [censored]. i got a great job at BMW and make 75K yearly. money is just money. not really ours to begin with. i work hard for my money and plan to make more of it. this car has sentimental value to my family. will never get rid of it. i am going to get the m400 powerplant paired up with a custom mtx75 trans from HMS. Y wont i go with the MMT6. b/c the internals arent strong enough. guys on the noble website arent too please. the interals are breaking are b/c of the high torque load. Quaife doesnt make custom gears for the MMT6 yet and will be a while before they do. so 4400 for the M400 and about 5k for custom trans(trany 250, gears 3000, lsd 1000, and 750 to HMS for install and build) the uk spec MTX75 uses a cable for the gearshift and on the 95 contour its a rod shift gearbox. so before to think you have someone already figured out and want to critisize them, make sure you have the facts. PM or email at archangelnj25@comcast.net if you have any Q's for me. i understand the STS turbo makes power but if you use a single turbo instead of a twin turbo it'll make more power. u figure 750 per gt28r when u can get a g3582r for about 1400 and make around the same if not more power than 2 gt28r's.
If you make 75k a year and live at home still, you're a [censored] moron.
Its cause he dosent make 75K a year, he is just trying to make himself feel better because the reality of having a [censored] life and being a retard is to much for him to handle.
The elusive and fabled Twin Turbo setup on a Contour... Anyone that has "Plans" to do it either has NEVER looked under the hood or has more money than brains.
The posters change but the topic remains the same.
Let's totally derail this topic.
What did you guys have for lunch? I had a Mac and Cheese Goulash that I whipped up last night.
Probably the only way to accomplish twin turbos is with an STS style setup.
Originally posted by Rev. Po-Jay:
The elusive and fabled Twin Turbo setup on a Contour... Anyone that has "Plans" to do it either has NEVER looked under the hood or has more money than brains.
The posters change but the topic remains the same.
Let's totally derail this topic.
What did you guys have for lunch? I had a Mac and Cheese Goulash that I whipped up last night.
Sounds awefull.
I had a tuna melt and ramen soup.
Fresh fruit and yogurt for me, trying to get rid of the gut.
Todays menu consisted of a bacon wrapped pork chop with rice pilaf... Pretty good. On a scale of 1-10 it would get a 7.25.
Tom, how you been?
Company luncheon today! Ok, it just means burgers and dogs, but hell, its free!
Originally posted by Rev. Po-Jay:
Todays menu consisted of a bacon wrapped pork chop with rice pilaf... Pretty good. On a scale of 1-10 it would get a 7.25.
Tom, how you been?
For the most part doing Great! And you?
I'm having fun working and with my hobbies. I just fired 30mm guns and 2.75 inch rockets again last night.....how was your job????
