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ford zetec2
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short shifer
#1304878 - 08/23/06 12:25 AM

man, I order a short shifter and it don't fit it was for the 98 and up. So, is there one for the 1995 model cause if there is let me know please!

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BrApple
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Re: short shifer new
#1304910 (Re: ford zetec2) 08/23/06 01:13 AM

there isn't one ...



get the hack saw out

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Re: short shifer new
#1304942 (Re: BrApple) 08/23/06 01:58 AM

my "short throw"

try that. if you need any help let me know.

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Re: short shifer new
#1305406 (Re: striker2) 08/23/06 10:59 PM

how is it going to work? do you know how the 98 short shifter is? the 95 model does have the hook on the bottom ball and the side ball. its was just a ball went i took out the oem shifter.

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Re: short shifer new
#1305448 (Re: ford zetec2) 08/24/06 12:26 AM

Originally posted by ford zetec2:
how is it going to work? do you know how the 98 short shifter is? the 95 model does have the hook on the bottom ball and the side ball. its was just a ball went i took out the oem shifter.





yes because the pre 98s use a rod shifter and the post 98 use a cable shifter, so of course a 98+ short shifter will not work in a pre 98


see above post .... break out the hack saw ...

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Re: short shifer new
#1305492 (Re: BrApple) 08/24/06 01:42 AM

and while you have the shifter out of the car cut off the cable and pull the stud and cable through the bottom of the lever to eliminate the reverse lockout. i used a dremel with a cutoff wheel for that and a hack saw for the shifter. the whole thing took about 30 min to do including R&R

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Re: short shifer new
#1305530 (Re: striker2) 08/24/06 02:53 AM

after than, what do i do with the 98 short shifter? do I place it in there like it is?

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Re: short shifer new
#1305544 (Re: ford zetec2) 08/24/06 03:06 AM

you cant use the 98 short shifter. you have to pull your shifter and then cut that. simply take the shift knob, reverse lockout lever, and shift boot off. once you have that off you need to place the car in nuetral and remove the snap ring that holds the shifter into the housing. when you get the snap ring off simply pull up on the lever and it should pop out. once its out of the car then you can cut the cable out. at that point you need to decide how short you want to cut the lever if you havent done so already. i cut mine to just below the slot cut in the lever for the cable end (see picture in the link i posted earlier). hope that helps

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Re: short shifer new
#1305647 (Re: ford zetec2) 08/24/06 11:37 AM

Originally posted by ford zetec2:
after than, what do i do with the 98 short shifter? do I place it in there like it is?





i suggest that you just retunr the shifter and call it a day

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Re: short shifer new
#1305907 (Re: ford zetec2) 08/24/06 07:37 PM

Originally posted by ford zetec2:
after than, what do i do with the 98 short shifter? do I place it in there like it is?




Stick it in your butt and rotate.

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Re: short shifer new
#1305967 (Re: CSVT1214) 08/24/06 09:54 PM

^ LMFAO!!

on a side note, i'm going to be doing an automatic to manual swap and i was wondering if i could/should use a tranny out of a post 98 so i can get a genuine short shifter and if cable is better than rod or vice versa?

thanks

btw: sorry about the hijack

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Originally posted by CSVT1214:
Originally posted by ford zetec2:
after than, what do i do with the 98 short shifter? do I place it in there like it is?




Stick it in your butt and rotate.





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Re: short shifer new
#1306024 (Re: blakjak) 08/24/06 11:46 PM

I wish I had a rod shifter. A cable shifted tranny will have parts more easily available and yes, short shifters are already made for them.

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Re: short shifer new
#1306105 (Re: striker2) 08/25/06 01:36 AM

OOOOOHHHHH! so, I cut the shifter in half, then I weld it where I want it on the bottom end of the shifer!!!!

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Re: short shifer new
#1306112 (Re: ford zetec2) 08/25/06 01:46 AM

no there is no welding involved in making the short shifter for the pre-98. the short shifter you bought for the 98 WILL NOT WORK, GET RID OF IT. you must use the shifter that came in your car. cut it down to the desired height and reinstall. make sure you take out the cable that runs down the center of the shaft. doing so will remove the reverse lockout so you can then install whatever shift knob you want. dont worry you will still have the reverse lockout in the transmission so you still have to go to neutral before you can go to reverse. removing the one on the shifter does not hurt anything.

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Re: short shifer new
#1306131 (Re: striker2) 08/25/06 01:55 AM

Cutting the shifter just makes it shorter. It doesn't shorten the throw.

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Re: short shifer new
#1306133 (Re: Kremithefrog) 08/25/06 01:56 AM

Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Cutting the shifter just makes it shorter. It doesn't shorten the throw.





its like the B&M, makes you think that the throw is shorter

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Re: short shifer new
#1306212 (Re: striker2) 08/25/06 03:24 AM

i sent you a email

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Re: short shifer new
#1306666 (Re: Kremithefrog) 08/25/06 10:19 PM

Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Cutting the shifter just makes it shorter. It doesn't shorten the throw.


I was thinking the same thing.

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Re: short shifer new
#1307158 (Re: Loco4G63) 08/27/06 04:27 AM

well if your shortening the shifter, the throw is actually shorter above the fulcrum point (at the knob/handle), just not below. we just did a similar shifter shortening to my brothers 97 escort, and it feels much better. it is also rod shifted like my 96 tour. we were thinking about further shortening the throw by lengthening the bottom side of the shifter connected to the rod, wich would give you the "true" short shifter mechanical advantage as you called it.

however, we did need to cut a couple inches out of the middle of the top half and weld back together. striker, how did you shorten yours? are the threads far enough down the shaft that you can cut to length and just thread a knob on, or did you use a tap and die?

too bad shifters arent as plentiful and as easy to install as they are on my mustang. still fun to work on the cars improving different aspects though.

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Edited by 4banganda5spd (08/27/06 04:34 AM)

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Re: short shifer new
#1307248 (Re: 4banganda5spd) 08/27/06 03:17 PM

no i just used a shift knob that has set screws instead of threading it on. however if you wanted to use a shift knob that threads on im sure you could use a die to put threads on it. it might be a little dificult finding a die that large though.

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