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SVT SNOB
Hard-core CEG'er

Reged: 07/17/01
Posts: 2974
Loc: Burlington, ON
Re: nitrous new
#1304889 (Re: TRicker) 08/23/06 12:44 AM

$3000 nitrous . What all do you have? I think you should buy my CAT Cams for this killer engine .

Aaron

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AKA NVS SVT
98.5 Silver/Blue SVT#4553
Yeah it's modded
98 T-Red/Blue SVT Contour Totaled 06/05/06
03 3L,VCN 2000,CAT Cams,MSDS Headers w/Y-Pipe,XCal2 and lots more



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TRicker
CEG'er

Reged: 06/25/06
Posts: 227
Loc: Center City, MN
Re: nitrous new
#1304897 (Re: SVT SNOB) 08/23/06 12:54 AM

well i include the MSD in there because i wouldnt have it if i wasnt using nitrous.

kit 650$
heater 150$
purge 150$
another bottle 150$
press. guages (2) 100$
MSD 450$
single to dual stage conversion (not ordered yet) 300$
shower head distribution blocks (direct port) 120$
4 extra shark nozzles 225$
MSD digital rpm window switch 80$

maybe not quite 3000 /shrug


somewhere around 2500 said and done. right now im waiting on the distribution blocks, conversion, window switch, and extra nozzles. im probably not going dual stage and just pay the 300 for a progressive rate controller and run a 150 shot on it, but i need to get the race lines so they will flow enough. we'll see what happens. it'll probably be a 75 that progresses to 150 starting at 3500 and ending at 7400


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1998 CSVT
NX stage 1 ford EFI kit
MSD dis-4
B&M short throw
K&N short ram intake
Fsvt Euro 17's
Trubendz 2.5" exhaust
Spec stage 3

249.9 HP 258.2 TRQ clutch slipping the whole time

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TRicker
CEG'er

Reged: 06/25/06
Posts: 227
Loc: Center City, MN
Re: nitrous new
#1304899 (Re: TRicker) 08/23/06 12:56 AM

oh yeah and its gonna add about 200 lbs to the car total, with both bottles and all that mess of wiring!

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1998 CSVT
NX stage 1 ford EFI kit
MSD dis-4
B&M short throw
K&N short ram intake
Fsvt Euro 17's
Trubendz 2.5" exhaust
Spec stage 3

249.9 HP 258.2 TRQ clutch slipping the whole time

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SVT SNOB
Hard-core CEG'er

Reged: 07/17/01
Posts: 2974
Loc: Burlington, ON
Re: nitrous new
#1304939 (Re: TRicker) 08/23/06 01:56 AM

Sounds like a killer set up . I look forward to seeing this setup in person.

Aaron

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AKA NVS SVT
98.5 Silver/Blue SVT#4553
Yeah it's modded
98 T-Red/Blue SVT Contour Totaled 06/05/06
03 3L,VCN 2000,CAT Cams,MSDS Headers w/Y-Pipe,XCal2 and lots more



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fastcougar
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Reged: 05/30/00
Posts: 1336
Loc: Kearneysville, WV
Re: nitrous new
#1305076 (Re: SVT SNOB) 08/23/06 01:01 PM

It's all a waste without a progressive controller

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TRicker
CEG'er

Reged: 06/25/06
Posts: 227
Loc: Center City, MN
Re: nitrous new
#1305919 (Re: fastcougar) 08/24/06 08:00 PM

if i dont convert to dual stage i'm going to run a progressive 150 shot. right now that is making more sense to me. and its alot less nozzles than a dual stage direct port setup!

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1998 CSVT
NX stage 1 ford EFI kit
MSD dis-4
B&M short throw
K&N short ram intake
Fsvt Euro 17's
Trubendz 2.5" exhaust
Spec stage 3

249.9 HP 258.2 TRQ clutch slipping the whole time

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MxRacer
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Reged: 02/01/04
Posts: 7392
Loc: pony heaven
Re: nitrous new
#1307154 (Re: TRicker) 08/27/06 04:19 AM

Originally posted by TRicker:
lol. howabout this. we both get on a dyno, and put in say, a 100 shot jet. take a pull N/A, and a pull on the bottle. i'l put down over 100 extra HP, you'll put down a measly 65, or 70 if your lucky. its been proven.




whoopity friggin doo! NX is simply labeling larger jets with smaller numbers in order to make this happen. a shot of nitrous netting 100rwhp will basically be the same volume amongst all brands. you're simply a victim of NX's marketing.

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evocontour
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Reged: 04/04/05
Posts: 179
Loc: Cortland, NY
Re: nitrous new
#1311455 (Re: MxRacer) 09/03/06 01:09 AM

Simple - NX doesn't give as much of a saftey barrier for the A/F ratio to be a bit rich. You can lean out a NOS kit and get more power out of it without burning anything, but you increase the chances of running into a problem. NOS deliberately runs the fueling a little rich to prevent detonation. NX runs LEANER, closer to the edge of detonation. More power? YES. Feel safer? NO. (At least I don't) I've sprayed just about everything I own(about 14 cars depending on the month ) The simplest and IMO Safest are the ZEX and the VENOM kits - they shut off if the fuel pressure drops out - NX and NOS base kits do not come with any sort of fuel drop off protection. You can destroy ANY motor by not using nitrous CORRECTLY. Most casualties of spray I have seen are from people running too long on the bottle, running garbage for fuel or using it on a engine that was not mechanically healthy.
Just one thing Tricker - how is your setup gonna add 200 pounds? A full 10 pound bottle averages at 24-25 pounds EACH - FULL. A stack of solenoids,bottle brackets and hoses still can't weigh in more than 30 pounds.I count 80 pounds. Even with your ignition boxes - Maybe 90 pounds.

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95 Contour, Custom EVO bodykit, 2.0l, PNP Focus head, Stage 2 cams, Je pistons, Eagle rods, 4in1header, 2.5" header back exhaust(complete stainless), D P nitrous, ram air intake, 10mm wires, flamethrower.

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warmonger
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Reged: 08/16/01
Posts: 5810
Loc: Ozark, AL
Re: nitrous new
#1311464 (Re: evocontour) 09/03/06 01:40 AM

Originally posted by evocontour:
Simple - NX doesn't give as much of a saftey barrier for the A/F ratio to be a bit rich. You can lean out a NOS kit and get more power out of it without burning anything, but you increase the chances of running into a problem. NOS deliberately runs the fueling a little rich to prevent detonation. NX runs LEANER, closer to the edge of detonation. More power? YES. Feel safer? NO. (At least I don't) I've sprayed just about everything I own(about 14 cars depending on the month ) The simplest and IMO Safest are the ZEX and the VENOM kits - they shut off if the fuel pressure drops out - NX and NOS base kits do not come with any sort of fuel drop off protection. You can destroy ANY motor by not using nitrous CORRECTLY. Most casualties of spray I have seen are from people running too long on the bottle, running garbage for fuel or using it on a engine that was not mechanically healthy.
Just one thing Tricker - how is your setup gonna add 200 pounds? A full 10 pound bottle averages at 24-25 pounds EACH - FULL. A stack of solenoids,bottle brackets and hoses still can't weigh in more than 30 pounds.I count 80 pounds. Even with your ignition boxes - Maybe 90 pounds.




Totally not true.
NX does run a bit richer, about the same as NOS I'd imagine, just to protect the engine.

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Former owner of '99 CSVT - Silver #222/2760
356/334 wHP/TQ at 10psi on pump gas!
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99cougar
Veteran CEG'er

Reged: 10/25/03
Posts: 718
Loc: south carolina
Re: nitrous new
#1311587 (Re: warmonger) 09/03/06 06:07 AM

Originally posted by warmonger:
Originally posted by evocontour:
Simple - NX doesn't give as much of a saftey barrier for the A/F ratio to be a bit rich. You can lean out a NOS kit and get more power out of it without burning anything, but you increase the chances of running into a problem. NOS deliberately runs the fueling a little rich to prevent detonation. NX runs LEANER, closer to the edge of detonation. More power? YES. Feel safer? NO. (At least I don't) I've sprayed just about everything I own(about 14 cars depending on the month ) The simplest and IMO Safest are the ZEX and the VENOM kits - they shut off if the fuel pressure drops out - NX and NOS base kits do not come with any sort of fuel drop off protection. You can destroy ANY motor by not using nitrous CORRECTLY. Most casualties of spray I have seen are from people running too long on the bottle, running garbage for fuel or using it on a engine that was not mechanically healthy.
Just one thing Tricker - how is your setup gonna add 200 pounds? A full 10 pound bottle averages at 24-25 pounds EACH - FULL. A stack of solenoids,bottle brackets and hoses still can't weigh in more than 30 pounds.I count 80 pounds. Even with your ignition boxes - Maybe 90 pounds.




Totally not true.
NX does run a bit richer, about the same as NOS I'd imagine, just to protect the engine.




That is exactly what i was going to say. After i got my wideband i put it on the car, and went for a ride with the 100 shot. The second the nitrous hit in the AFR went down to 10:1 ish. And the higher the rpm's got the richer it got. Up above 6,000rpm's the AFR was 8.5:1 with the NX 100 shot jets in. Is 8.5:1 rich enough for ya evocontour? lol

I mean seriously...8.5:1...now wonder my motor has lasted so long with me spraying the guts outa it!

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1999 Cougar V6 MTX
SVT UIM/LIM/65mm TB, I/H/E, Fidanza/SPEC III/Torsen, Koni/GC's, 19" Icon wheels w/ Pirelli rubber, NX Wet Kit



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