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Re: horrible engine noise new
#696721 (Re: Hodge Podge) 08/27/04 03:08 AM

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Re: horrible engine noise new
#696733 (Re: Hodge Podge) 08/27/04 03:16 AM

My point is, i was going by what you decribed....and by what you described it was very close to the description of a spun bearing (as i ahve had one and so have many of the people i know)


Given that, my information was correct, but i also failed to mention that it could be other things (as not completly thinking stright since i was at work).


Give new information, i would research this site and peoples responses very carfully and would take the time to properly diagnose your situation and then come to a conclusion.


Check your:
Water pump
motor mounts
suspension
Clutch (yes it is possible that it maybe bad,even though its new)
and then fianly your engine (cams, rods)


i understand the the engine part is difficult, but if you eliminate the others, you have one conclusion left...or atleast one.

Lupe

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Re: horrible engine noise new
#696735 (Re: alex_96GL) 08/27/04 03:16 AM

im not out of the woods yet kevin as far as the wreck goes, i only had liability so im out the 2G's i just paid for the car not 3 months ago, plus the mods i did, plus the price of the new car.

and the guy i hit has his insurance co. pestering me for a statement, i fianlly gave one today, with my lawyer listening over the phone. i could get sued. i already got a ticket, and then lost my car, lets add more salt, shall we?

one word:

Pwn3d

i have 50/000 property and 100,000 injury which is the minimum liability. there were 3 cars besides mine involved (i was the last in a 4 car pileup.

PM me if you wanna know the rest.

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Hodge Podge
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Re: horrible engine noise new
#696744 (Re: Stryker) 08/27/04 03:21 AM

wow...that is insane...i hope you work it all out....i think i got something that can beat that though....i totalled my car on the tenth day of owning it....it doesnt get any worse than that ...now i always gotta make sure these effin brakes actually work...i am a freak about it now...good luck man

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Re: horrible engine noise new
#696755 (Re: Hodge Podge) 08/27/04 03:26 AM

i have noticed that the sound only occurs durring acceleration...as the rpm are sustained or rising....when they fall....the sound is gone....a bearing should have a constant sound shouldnt it? This is making me think it might have something to do witht he throttle....stop me if im going off track more than i already am...but it jus seems like an idea,thanks

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Stryker
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Re: horrible engine noise new
#696766 (Re: Hodge Podge) 08/27/04 03:33 AM

it does have something to do with the throttle, it gets worse when you push it right??


seriously, a rod knock accelerates and decelerates with the rev of the motor, more or less staying at the same volume the entire time. it doesnt get wuiter when the engine is deceleratiing.

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Re: horrible engine noise new
#696770 (Re: Stryker) 08/27/04 03:40 AM

so what exactly are you sayin stryker...that if it was a spun bearing...it would be a constant knock knock knock sound....its only at high rps...while accel...it can be up at 5 and no sound....acceling slightly at 5+ then the sound starts.....if the engine was actually effed up it seems like there would be a constant sound coming from the strokes or something...

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Re: horrible engine noise new
#696771 (Re: Roz 1999 SVT-C) 08/27/04 03:41 AM

Originally posted by Roz 1999 SVT-C:

Check your:
Water pump
motor mounts
suspension
Clutch (yes it is possible that it maybe bad,even though its new)
and then fianly your engine (cams, rods)





also some trivial things, like a loose spark plug it can be anything at this point. it can be event this, but let's hope it isn't.

p.s. Lupe, I was not tryig to deride the bearing theory, it is indeed a common occurence. I think we all (HITMAN exclided) appreciate the point that we should work from trivial to complicated.

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Stryker
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Re: horrible engine noise new
#696779 (Re: Hodge Podge) 08/27/04 03:50 AM

Originally posted by Kevin Hodges:
so what exactly are you sayin stryker...that if it was a spun bearing...it would be a constant knock knock knock sound....its only at high rps...while accel...it can be up at 5 and no sound....acceling slightly at 5+ then the sound starts.....if the engine was actually effed up it seems like there would be a constant sound coming from the strokes or something...




yes there woudl be a CONSTANT knock. if you cant hear it at idle, im 99% positive that it isnt rod knock. if you have a rod knock, the knock starts the minute the motor turns over. it may not even start, but it will knock as you turn it over. then if it starts, it will stay the saem volume and knock with the same frequency until you step on the gas. the knocking will increase in speed, but not usually volume, from idle to redline. and unless you want your motor to fly apart and through it through the bottom of the block, do not rev a CSVT with rod knock to 6,750 RPMS.


now in some cases, rod knock can get louder under load, but light acceleration is not (usually) enough to do it. if you punch the gas, you may notice an increase in volume.

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Edited by Stryker (08/27/04 03:51 AM)

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Red92784
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Re: horrible engine noise new
#696782 (Re: Stryker) 08/27/04 03:54 AM

Sorry, Im gonna steal the thread for a sec.

If you guys want to compare accidents I think I've got a topper. I was letting a buddy of mind drive my 92 Escort because I diddn't know the area we were in very well. Anyway he decides he wants to go hill hopping. I diddn't even know what he was doing untill he started speeding up near this steep a$$ hill. We hit about 90mph and flew over the hill, a friend behind us said we caught about 15 feet of air and when we hit the ground the passenger rear tire blew. We swerved to the left, hit a berm, rolled once, then flipped end over end about 8 times in the middle of an effin cornfield. The driver wasn't wearing a belt and was launched from the car when we rolled, I escaped with a cuncussion and a bruised lung and had to be cut out of the car, my friend in the back got a broken nose and a cuncussion, and his girlfriend had cuts all over her fingers from broken glass. If it had been a Civic I wouldn't be here right now. FORD RULES! When I got out of the hospital I went to see the car, it looked like God picked his nose and flicked a booger at the ground! But thank God I'm still here.

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