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BrApple
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P0402
#333325 - 06/29/03 03:32 PM

got a code P0402 from the computer this morning for the CEL. egr excesive flow at idle

we know we need to clean the throttle body and egr passages behind the throttle body. should this take care of the problem?

it is the 99 SE Sport that we just got. Has 52k and was driven fairly easy. I had gotton on it a few times last night and then the light tripped when I was sitting in a line a traffic. I think some junk got stuck some place because the CEL turned off this morning.

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99blacksesport
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Re: P0402 new
#333530 (Re: BrApple) 06/29/03 08:33 PM

I get this code all the time too, I just pull over and reset the code with my computer. I have already replaced the EGR valve, so I think its a vacuum problem in my case. Let me know what you find on his car. BTW, if the EGR is clogged or dirty, you can really only replace it, from what I remember, you cant clean these EGR's.

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SweetSVT99
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Re: P0402 new
#333583 (Re: 99blacksesport) 06/29/03 09:46 PM

Brapple: clean the EGR passages first since it only costs a couple bucks for the stuff to do it and it's so easy to do. If that doesn't work I would replace the DPFE sensor, that is typically the problem.

99blacksesport: Your problem is most likely the DPFE sensor. They are relatively cheap and very simple to put on.

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Marky
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Re: P0402 new
#333615 (Re: BrApple) 06/29/03 10:32 PM

I cleaned the TB and passages and cleared my P0402. I recently got back from a 6000 mile (honest) trip to the midwest and it showed again, then went away! Let me know if you fix the problem.

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BrApple
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Re: P0402 new
#333814 (Re: SweetSVT99) 06/30/03 02:26 AM

Originally posted by SweetSVT99:
Brapple: clean the EGR passages first since it only costs a couple bucks for the stuff to do it and it's so easy to do. If that doesn't work I would replace the DPFE sensor, that is typically the problem.






my father is on his way to the dealer tomorrow to get brake pads for the new car ans some other small things. A set a throttle body gaskets are on the list to so both the 99's will have this done.

will let you know if anything comes of it

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Re: P0402 new
#334446 (Re: SweetSVT99) 06/30/03 04:23 PM

What is a DPFE sensor, wheres it located, what does it do, etc..? Thanks for the help! -Nick

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GeoPappas
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Re: P0402 new
#334475 (Re: 99blacksesport) 06/30/03 04:40 PM

Originally posted by 99blacksesport:
What is a DPFE sensor, wheres it located, what does it do, etc..?




Check here:

http://www.contour.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=trouble&Number=311440

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F111D F
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Re: P0402 new
#334984 (Re: BrApple) 07/01/03 12:55 AM

If you do find it is the DPFE try getting one at discount (one of the sources that are mentioned on this site. I got one at cost $34.39 instead standard retail $75. From the same dealer only got a cousin with transmission shop, has an account. Get the new updated version Plastic F77Z-9J460-AB, it supposed to last long. This DPFE is a fun one the catch, even with shop CD and OBD II tool.
Paul
since you've got P0402 EGR flow at idle check the EGR solenoid, not only does it turn the vaccum on to operate the EGR the tiny filter inside allows the vaccum that EGR was operated with to vent. Even possible small piece of carbon holding the egr open slightly, however don't recall anyone actually saying that they found that.
It mine about six months of intermitents before the DPFE finally totally died. I even had 0401 & 0402 set at the same time once. insuffiecent & excessive

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99blacksesport
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Re: P0402 new
#334994 (Re: F111D F) 07/01/03 01:02 AM

How would I check the DPFE is causing my P0402? My TB is clean, theres a fairly new EGR on her too. Thanks alot! -Nick

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F111D F
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Re: P0402 new
#335050 (Re: 99blacksesport) 07/01/03 01:34 AM

Beside the obvious visual check of the two hoses that connect the two ports on the EGR pipe, a scan tool (in my case an old laptop with OBD-2.com software) the Ford manual has a test you do that actually lets you read or look for a certain voltages.
Actully the PCM is doing it, the Scan tool is only part of the equation it sets up the PCM to do the test and gives a read out.
Something like that right Mr. Pappas?
George helped me chase mine down last year, nope, hmmmmmm just this spring I finally got it to totally fail.
This is one time I'm glad I invested in Alex Pepers OBD II device and software. It's almost a necessity with vehicles now. You can waste allot of money and time, still takes me allot of time and money but then I'm trying to train myself. I fiqure in 10 more years I might get it mastered, but then the Mystique will be 15 years old. Then I'll have to start all over. But then that's what a car buff does.

Paul

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