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Rogerm60
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Re: I think my water pump is going out,,,,,,,,, new
#167590 (Re: Swazo) 01/30/03 12:42 AM

Yes, the water only has to be above 195 deg. F.

Make sure you get all of the plastic pieces out of the system.

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Re: I think my water pump is going out,,,,,,,,, new
#167802 (Re: Swazo) 01/30/03 03:11 AM

Quote:

....BTW I doubt yours needs replacing, you can check it after removal by boiling in pot of water.....


So much for my prediction skills.
What temp on old/new thermostats?

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Re: I think my water pump is going out,,,,,,,,, new
#167976 (Re: horseydug) 01/30/03 04:57 AM

It was stamped 188 and I've heard of others using the 180 degree thermostat as replacement. Since I spaced that one off, looks like I will have to go on a parts run tomarrow.

I flushed the engine for about 15 minuets with the prestone? flush kit before I did anything. I'm wondering if it did that much good considering the water pump wasn't working as well as it should've. Just to be safe I'll flush it again when I'm done with the new water pump and thermostat.

This SHOULD work.........

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Re: I think my water pump is going out,,,,,,,,, new
#167990 (Re: Swazo) 01/30/03 05:04 AM

Thermostat is 192 nom.

Too low will affect engine management.

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Re: I think my water pump is going out,,,,,,,,, new
#168068 (Re: Rogerm60) 01/30/03 06:03 AM

Correct, but that's for the Zetec.

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Re: I think my water pump is going out,,,,,,,,, new
#168183 (Re: Swazo) 01/30/03 12:23 PM

Well it won't hurt to test the new thermostat before installation.

I filled/ran engine/drained cooling system a couple of times, when both of my pumps went last May, before adding anti-freeze.

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Re: I think my water pump is going out,,,,,,,,, new
#172446 (Re: horseydug) 02/03/03 06:11 AM

lol!

Oh man, put in a new water pump and thermostat and it still over heats! Looks like it'll be problem solving with the low speed cooling fan

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Re: I think my water pump is going out,,,,,,,,, new
#172606 (Re: horseydug) 02/03/03 01:39 PM

I have a question, if the impeller shatters, will it leak? Most waterpumps go when they start leaking.

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Re: I think my water pump is going out,,,,,,,,, new
#172698 (Re: 2KSESportV6) 02/03/03 03:23 PM

The seal and bearing were still fine on mine when the impeller went. I think a few have posted leaks, but sometimes it seems like there's no sign that the pump has died.

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Re: I think my water pump is going out,,,,,,,,, new
#172745 (Re: 2KSESportV6) 02/03/03 04:52 PM

With black plastic impeller waterpump it seems that impeller failure occurs before shaft seal or bearing have enough miles on them to fail. Seal failures posted IIRC seem to be infant mortality on replacement pumps, usually with metal impellers.

Swazo:

Surely not!
Fan failure normally only detectable when car idling for extended period or during stop and go driving in high ambient temp. Did you check for impeller bits behind stainless steel cone in wp housing, was cone firmly in place and did you install new tested thermostat correctly?

Detailed description of current symptoms might be useful.

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